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The Dude
January 20th, 2006, 12:03 AM
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/13657303.htm

Because only US residents use google right? And even then,here I thought the USA was "the land of the free" - Yeah, RIGHT. http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/thedude/rolleyes.gif

Tweaker
January 20th, 2006, 12:17 AM
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/news/ ;)

psi_overtake
January 20th, 2006, 12:34 AM
Pick away at small, minor rights... then chip away at the bigger ones... I just wish it stops soon. =(

liondad
January 20th, 2006, 03:15 AM
Make more laws you get more criminals
More criminals you make more laws
And so on,
Until all and one are criminals
Criminals have no rights,
Therefore those that govonen us
Must make us all criminals,
Like water dripping on the stone
All our rights will wear away

jmtjet
January 20th, 2006, 03:44 AM
It will take 50 years to undo all of the bad that Bush has done to this country. He will go down in history as one of the worst presidents the US has ever had.

oracle128
January 20th, 2006, 01:04 PM
It's funny how if the US Government decides to do something considered 'bad', it's called the "Bush Government". And here I was, thinking that the US had a government made up of members from ALL political parties! Now don't get me wrong Bush-whackers, this isn't anything to do with whether or not Bush himself is a bad/stupid person; that's not the point. The point is, it takes the WHOLE government (or in most cases, greater than 50% of it) to make action, not one person.

Nick Grana
January 20th, 2006, 02:41 PM
The point is, it takes the WHOLE government (or in most cases, greater than 50% of it) to make action, not one person.
But the buck stops at prez Monkey boy. Don't you think the repubs majority in house and senate don't take advantage of a repub prez responsible to check off on everything? Yeah, bipartisanship lives and breaths here.:dizzy:
Maybe one person crosses the line and it's called a bipartisan event.:disgust:
http://photobucket.com/albums/d53/NickGrana/th_screw.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/d53/NickGrana/?action=view&current=screw.gif)Monkey boy and the rest of his cronies.:cool:

oracle128
January 20th, 2006, 02:52 PM
Forgive me, I don't mean to start a debate (in this thread...), it's just I don't understand how you can blame one guy for all the problems in a (allegedly) Democratic government, when that guy is often the last person to see any changes and give his approval/disapproval, after the proposal has made it's way through the hundreds of other people in the government. Is it simply easier to blame the last person in the line than it is to blame any/all of the other MPs?

Nick Grana
January 20th, 2006, 03:06 PM
No. They are all idiots. Bush just gets to be the last line of defense and jumps feet first and swims with the other idiots. Party lines. Party lines. Don't break one for fear of retribution.
Does your Parliament do this? One Speaker at the gavel and one speaker at the microphone giving a speech to a literal empty house. Happens all the time in Congress. It's funnier than a Dick Van Dyke show.:D
Clinton was creamed once when he did not sign the bill against partial birth abortions. He was against PBA also, (as most anyone with half a brain would be) but the bill was bundled with 200 other bills that had to all pass or none pass. Line item veto was not available.
You can't bundle a lot of horse shiite and expect it to go through the veto process if one passes, all pass. That's just pure crap.:disgust:

z1p
January 20th, 2006, 03:36 PM
Ok, calling it the Bush goverment may be a bit off the mark. How about the Republican goverment? ;) After all they do have the majority in the house and senate, along with the president. Historically, it is shown that the US is worst off when a single party has control of the house and senate along with the presidency. Basically, if there is a split in the goverment it can do less harm.

oracle128
January 20th, 2006, 04:03 PM
Technically, it's the 'US Government', which happens to have a majority of Republicans in the Lower House. And yes, having the majority lower house AND the presidency (or in our case prime minister) is usually bad; but don't forget that all bills/ammendments must pass through the upper house too. The result is, as we already knew, when you have so many citizens opposing the government, the majority of parliament are clearly not doing their job - representing the people. In any other job, that would get you fired.

Snurfen
January 20th, 2006, 04:03 PM
Our last Parliament in the UK suffered from the same problem - it had a big majority, similar to Bush having a majority in both houses, so Blair thought he could get away with anything (ok, you know the context I'm talking about).

Thats not a healthy scenario for any political group to be in. It seems like we get more sensible government when there is a good chance of Bills and Laws not getting through on the nod.

The previous Blair government and the current Bush government don't have those checks and balances in place. One of the times when the process of democracy breaks down a little.

oracle128
January 20th, 2006, 04:14 PM
I think I might know what our next CTH debate is going to be about.

Nick Grana
January 20th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Technically, it's the 'US Government', which happens to have a majority of Republicans in the Lower House. And yes, having the majority lower house AND the presidency (or in our case prime minister) is usually bad; but don't forget that all bills/ammendments must pass through the upper house too.
Our lower house, upper house, and the presidency is of one stupid mind set.:sad: Our checks are being written to foreign countries and just forget about a balance. Checks and balances were ammended, it seems.
When a football team does bad in a season, who gets fired. The coach.
We are stuck in a quagmire of death and destruction because of one dictator man. Let Monkey boy send his daughters to that great place of U.S. made democracy. It's much easier to send other's children than your own.:disgust:
I was in Vietnam with 2 of my 3 brothers and stepdad at the same time. Justice? None.

The Dude
January 21st, 2006, 01:51 AM
It will take 50 years to undo all of the bad that Bush has done to this country.I dont think it will even be that quick :(

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Ned Seagoon
January 21st, 2006, 02:09 AM
It will take 50 years to undo all of the bad that Bush has done to this country. He will go down in history as one of the worst presidents the US has ever had.

I couldn't agree more, but perhaps the word 'country' should be replaced by 'world'. And just think a few chads is all it took! Amazing.

lufbra
January 21st, 2006, 03:22 AM
It will take 50 years to undo all of the bad that Bush has done to this country. He will go down in history as one of the worst presidents the US has ever had.

Hmmmmm, that doesn't say much for who was selected to run against him in the last election, perhaps he won on the basis : better the devil you know.... :p

Nick Grana
January 21st, 2006, 05:09 AM
It's that stupid mindset again rearing its ugly head. The repubs select a primary and so do the dems. None of these people think for themselves.
Party line. That's why we're are given the choice of two evils.
The moon is made of cheese, a chicken in every pot, tax cuts, etc,. B/S
Nothing but lies and deceit. As soon as old Bush was elected on his, "Read my lips. No new taxes" run, he raised taxes.
Clinton went with the same line and raised taxes the moment he was in office.
Our freedom is shrinking faster than a gnat's a$$. You may as well say it now for it will come after my life that this country is run by the Government and we, the people, will have no say so in it.
Or maybe we can all live in the Matrix carefree of anything.:D But even then their will be people like Morpheus, Neo, and me, that will not like the idea of being run by someone else with no say so.:cool:

psi_overtake
January 21st, 2006, 07:54 PM
And The Matrix is one of my favorite movies too...

"As you so eloquently put it, the problem is choice." w00t architect!

IamOne
January 21st, 2006, 08:00 PM
quote=psi_overtake]And The Matrix is one of my favorite movies too...

"As you so eloquently put it, the problem is choice." w00t architect![/quote]


I had to watch the matrix 6 times before i understood what was going on:D :D [

psi_overtake
January 21st, 2006, 08:38 PM
Me too, IamOne!! But it only took about 4 times for me. =P But even after that, you keep watching, and you find out new things all the time! Kinda like techno music... after the 10th time or so, you hear the background instruments and sounds that just make it whole. That's why I love watching the Matrix over and over again. ^_^ Aside from the awesome storyline~

Oops, this thread's about Google. xD http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=the+matrix