Copy PS CD

[funk]

Hi all, i'm just wondering if it is possible to copy songs from a playstation1 disc?
If so, how?
I have not checked, but i'm guessing this is illegal, and CTH probaly don't want to encorage breaking copyright laws... But i did buy the disc atleast.
Anyway if you do know, it would be much appreciated if you could post or PM me.

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[Ned Seagoon]

I am sure it would be illegal due to copyright laws. It is good that you bought the Playstation CD, but you have not bought the contents, just a licence to use the contents. There is a difference.

[jililan]

In the business law course I took at the local college we were told that you have the right to make back-up copies of software for your personal use. It's what you do with it after making copies that could be illegal.
So unless the lawyer who taught the class is wrong, you can copy your disk.

[funk]

Ok.
But i'm not really botherd if it's illegal or not. I'm just wondering if it's possible to rip songs from a playstation CD.

If your wondering the game is Thrasher skate and destroy.
Some real funky tunes on there...
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[renegade600]

In the business law course I took at the local college we were told that you have the right to make back-up copies of software for your personal use. It's what you do with it after making copies that could be illegal.
So unless the lawyer who taught the class is wrong, you can copy your disk.

The lawyer in your class was wrong because he did not tell the whole story. It is legal to copy cd and dvds for your own use, however, if you have to decrypt and bypass any type of security on those disks in order to make your copy, then you broke the law because that is illegal. Look up the DCMA act here in the states and other countries have their own version.

[renegade600]

Ok.
But i'm not really botherd if it's illegal or not. I'm just wondering if it's possible to rip songs from a playstation CD.

If your wondering the game is Thrasher skate and destroy.
Some real funky tunes on there...
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It is illegal and this forum will not help individuals who want to violate laws. Read the rules.

[jililan]

The lawyer in your class was wrong because he did not tell the whole story. It is legal to copy cd and dvds for your own use, however, if you have to decrypt and bypass any type of security on those disks in order to make your copy, then you broke the law because that is illegal.

I missed the part where I said something about decrypting anything.

[renegade600]

I missed the part where I said something about decrypting anything.

Then you missed something very important because almost all dvds, ps cds, etc have some sort of security that must be bypass in order to make a copy. That is the catch. And that is the point of this thread - is it legal to copy the music off the ps cd - and it is not.

[jililan]

If I buy a Rolling Stones CD I have every right to make a copy to carry in my car while I leave the original at home. As long as I don't sell it it is perfectly legal.

[black mirror]

If I buy a Rolling Stones CD I have every right to make a copy to carry in my car while I leave the original at home. As long as I don't sell it it is perfectly legal.

The law in the uk says " I buy a song or album on a CD, can I legally copy it? What are the legal ways I can make copies?



it is generally permissible to make copies of a lawfully purchased CD for personal use. This means we can copy that CD onto another CD for our car, for example, or onto a tape for our Walkman. Or, we can make a copy of the CD on our hard drive to play the file via our computer. Burning a copy of CD onto a CD-R, or transferring a copy onto your computer hard drive or your portable music player wont usually raise concerns so long as the copy is made from an authorized original CD that you legitimately own and the copy is just for your personal use. Giving away the copy or lending it to others for copying is not a personal use and is not legal.

[oracle128]

The discussion you guys are talking about is the concept of "Fair Use". In countries that have this provision, yes it is generally legal to make a backup copy of software/data for personal use, providing you don't have to decrypt or crack any protection mechanisms, region encoding, etc.

However, this is not funk's intention. I don't believe PSX discs have any content protection mechanisms (the PS hardware does, but that's another story (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modchip#Legality)), but it is irrelevent; extracting individual contents of a disc (such as audio, video, or images) I don't believe constitutes fair use of the media, and thus is illegal, regardless of whether your country has fair use laws or not.

I personally don't think there's anything morally wrong with it, but yes, there are programs available that can extract that content for you. I have used them myself, but due to CTH's policy I can't point them out to you or assist you with it.

PS: I'm not a lawyer

[jililan]

it is generally permissible to make copies of a lawfully purchased CD for personal use. This means we can copy that CD onto another CD for our car, for example, or onto a tape for our Walkman.

That is all I was saying.

[black mirror]

That is all I was saying.


And you said it so well:D

[funk]

It is illegal and this forum will not help individuals who want to violate laws. Read the rules.

I'll probaly kick myself when you point it out to me. But where are the rules?!
I've searched the forum page all over and i just can't see it...:dizzy:

Thanks orcale128, as long as it exists it's probaly on google so i'll have a little look.
I don't see there is much wrong with making a copy either, the artists signed there copyright and got there pay from me, and i'm not planning on copying it myself to make a profit.

This is braking the law? that could possibly end in a fine? if anyone is being cheated it is me :confused:

[oracle128]

The basic rules are here (http://www.cybertechhelp.com/sitehelp/posting.php). All the legal stuff is here (http://www.cybertechhelp.com/legal/).
This is braking the law? that could possibly end in a fine? if anyone is being cheated it is meUnfortunately, it is quite possibly illegal as far as I know. When you buy the game, you purchase a license to use that software. Involving PS games, I believe the license only allows you to use the software (as a whole package) on the PS hardware only. Simply accessing the disc with a PC, and furthermore extracting content from the CD (which could be described as a form of reverse engineering) is against the license agreement. Theoretically, it could result in a fine, because it is against the license; but in practice, no copyright-holder would bother charging you for it, nor would any court likely convict you of unfair use. In fact, a music composer would likely be happy to see someone enjoying their music for itself, rather than as part of the whole game; and unless they sell a CD soundtrack for the game, they're not losing anything, which is why a court would be unlikely to penalize you (more games than you'd think actually do have soundtracks available, but they are mostly for Japanese games, and thus the CDs are only available in Japan).