dial up adapter is not responding

[RichyL]

Hi,

I wonder if anyone could help with this. Have a windows 95 machine unsure what release, it's a P1 nothing flash.

I keep getting 'error the dial up adapter is not responding', now the thing is I cant open the network control panel, double click and nothing happens, right click the icon and open and nothing hapens! All other controll panels run

I've tryed reinstalling comms through add/rem but it's still the same, network won't launch and still get the dua error. I thought about extracting the network cpl from the cabs, but I cant get the extract command to run in dos, and there's no sys file checker!!

Any ideas?

[Murf]

Download and install Dial Up Networking:

Get it Here

[RichyL]

Yeah that would work but slight problem,

I cant connect to the www with the 95 machine, also the file is 1.8mb in size and I can only compress to 1.75 so cant get onto floppy.

Now would normally go for the burn to the cd option but the pc is so old the cd rom wont read cdr media.

Sorry for being a pain, any other ideas?

[Alfons]

If you use something like WinZip to compress the file and direct the output to a floppy, WinZip will tell you when to insert additional floppies just like for backups - you'll end up with a compressed volume set. You'll just need to have WinZip on the other machine to read all the floppies and then expand them to a directory (folder) of your choice.

[RichyL]

Genius

Learn something new every day! Cool got the dun upgrade zipped on 2 disks, i'll post back let you know if it works.

Thanks for the help

[RichyL]

OK run into another prob, on the 95 machine I have winrar and it wont reassemble the split exe from the zips, get error unexpected end of file. I cant get winzip as I can only find 8.1 which is 1.7mb so cant get on floppy!! So cant get on 95 machine.

Had a play around, extracted the netcpl.cpl succesfully but it still wont run, I think this is a memory issue, when windows is runnning there's only 2mb of physical memory free. When in safe mode theres 16mb but the network cpl still won't run. Do u think lack of memory is the problem?

So I still cant re install the dua, so I checked dev mngr and there are no network adapters listed, hit f5 to refresh and the dua was detected. I cant install the driver because when I do try i receive a rundll32 error with the options to ignore or close. Which ever you press you receive the following illegal op

'rundll32 caused a general protection fault in module netdi.dll'

and the driver install fails! dua appears in dev mngr with no driver installed and trying to update the driver results in the same error as above!

On a reboot the new h/w wizard detects the dua and gives the following options where to locate the driver, windows driver (greyed out), select compatible driver (cant select ms dua driver?), have disk or dont install.

I've had a search on google but cant find a fix. I know the 1.4 dun upgrade would probably sort this but it don't look poss at the moment.

I might try extracting netdi.dll.......

If i tried a o/s reinstall would I lose any data, can this be done on 95 as 98?

any other ideas??

[Murf]

Another way, takes some time.

Unzip all the files into a directory on the machine with winzip.

Lets make a folder called DUN, then unzip the files into there.

Now copy files to floppies, should take 2-3, write down files copied so you know, just check file size..

Now make a folder on the Win95 one called DUN, copy the files from the floppy to this folder.

Now go to that folder and double click on SETUP.

Takes time, but I have done it many times....

[RichyL]

Cool followed your advice Installed the dun1.4 upgrade, which was an absolute nightmare as I seem to have been missing millions of dll's and vxd's which i've downloaded, copied and extracted from here there and everywhere the upgrade took and dun looks better but still the dua won't install and network cpl is still dead?

As before on a reboot the new h/w wizard detects the dua and gives the following options where to locate the driver, windows driver (greyed out), select compatible driver (cant select ms dua driver?), have disk or dont install. So I can only not install to continue to load windows!

have extracted netdi.dll and netos.dll as this is the fix i found on the ms knowledge base for a dead cpl but it dont work.

any idea where to go now??

[Alfons]

What is your adapter make and model? You may have all the program pieces that you need from MS but that won't help if the device drivers are corrupt or missing.

[Murf]

ZYuk,

The network ICON file is netcpl.cpl and is located in the C:\Windows\System folder.

Try this, START | RUN

Type in:

control netcpl.cpl

Hit OK and see if it opens.

When you run the CONTROL command you are actually starting Control Panel with Control.exe, not the normal way Windows 95/98 runs Control Panel tools. The actual command line Windows uses is:

"rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL %1,%*",

Windows substitutes the name of the tool you want to run for %1%. For example:

"rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL netcpl.cpl"


If not , and since you have extracted it, maybe an ext has not been created for it:

1. Double Click "My Computer".
2. Click View
3. Click Options
4. Click "File Types" Tab
5. Choose New
6. In the "Description Of Type" box enter "Control Panel Extension"
7. In the "Associated Extension" box enter "cpl"
8. Click the "New" button and in the 'Action" box enter "Open with Control Panel"
9. Enter in the "Application used to Perform Action" box "C:\WINDOWS\rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL %1,%*"
10. OK your way out.


Also to check the *.cpl, START | SEARCH type in netcpl.cpl when found RIGHT CLICK the file and go to Properties. If you get an error the the file is bad.

Other things to check:

1. Make sure that the Control.exe file in the Windows folder .

2. If you have a scanner attached check the following:

Vhpscand.vxd file is located in the Windows\System folder instead of the Windows\System\Iosubsys folder.

3. If one or more Apple QuickTime for Windows files are missing or damaged. Remove Quicktime.

You may have to reinstall Windows over the top of itself to correct.

[RichyL]

Sorry for the delay in response.

Haven't been able to try whats been suggested yet, I doubt i'll be able to do so till the weekend :0(

I will let you know what the outcome is :0)

thanx for the input so far

[RichyL]

Sorted it, had to run setup again and reinstall.

Would have like to have found out what caused this but cant fix em all :0)

thanxs for the help!!