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Old December 31st, 2002, 04:02 AM
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Annoying Bootup Problem

I have encountered a most annoying problem at bootup.

All shortcuts appear on the desktop.Of the four items

in the Systray...the Antivirus program, AVG , does not

load. The hourglass pointer freezes and the computer

hangs. To 'unhang' I illegally shut down the computer

and will go through the normal rigmarole of 'windows

was illegally shutdown.....bla ,bla, bla.It goes through

Scandisk and the antivirus program is loaded. I am now

able to work.My questions now are: Is there any way to

avoid the illegal shutdown , and what is the probable

reason for this development.Thanks for any info. Happy

New Year.
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Old December 31st, 2002, 04:54 AM
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Hi newbie24 - welcome to CTH and a Happy New Year to you too

It might be a good idea if we have a look at your startups to see if we can identify a conflict. Go here and download and run Startup List. It will generate a log file. Copy the log and paste it back into this thread.
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Old December 31st, 2002, 06:41 PM
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Hello ,AnnMarie thanks for your advice. I do however have

a problem : I am an old guy who just bought a computer,

a couple of computer books and taught myself a few

things...enough to navigate the web and understand

computer basics. I am terrified by Dos and MSdos and

shy away from any application that they involve.

The downloaded file.....Pkunzip comes in MSdos and to open

same leaves me sweating. I wonder if the startuplist from

Msconfig will suffice. [ My O/S is win 95 which does not have

MSconfig...the latter I downloaded and installed ] Do bear

with me and reply.Thanks.
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Old December 31st, 2002, 09:04 PM
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Nothing to be afraid of, this won't harm oyur computer in anyway

An example of what you'll get:

StartupList report, 1/3/01, 1:53:05 PM
StartupList version: 1.40.1
Started from : C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\STARTUPLIST.EXE
Detected: Windows 98 SE (Win9x 4.10.2222A)
Detected: Internet Explorer v5.00 (5.00.2614.3500)
* Using default options
==================================================

Running processes:

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MPREXE.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\mmtask.tsk
C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTRAY.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\MIXER.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMIEXE.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\WINZIP\WINZIP32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\STARTUPLIST.EXE

--------------------------------------------------

Autorun entries from Registry:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

ScanRegistry = C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun
SystemTray = SysTray.Exe
C-Media Mixer = Mixer.exe /startup

--------------------------------------------------

Enumerating Active Setup stub paths:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components
(* = disabled by HKCU twin)

[{89820200-ECBD-11cf-8B85-00AA005B4383}] *
StubPath = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ie4uinit.exe

[>PerUser_MSN_Clean] *
StubPath = C:\WINDOWS\msnmgsr1.exe

[PerUser_LinkBar_URLs] *
StubPath = C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\sulfnbk.exe /L

[{44BBA840-CC51-11CF-AAFA-00AA00B6015C}] *
StubPath = "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\setup50.exe" /APP:OE /CALLER:WIN9X /user /install

[{7790769C-0471-11d2-AF11-00C04FA35D02}] *
StubPath = "C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\setup50.exe" /APP:WAB /CALLER:WIN9X /user /install

--------------------------------------------------

Load/Run keys from C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI:

load=
run=

--------------------------------------------------

Shell & screensaver key from C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI:

Shell=Explorer.exe
SCRNSAVE.EXE=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\3DTEXT~1.SCR
drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv

--------------------------------------------------

Checking for EXPLORER.EXE instances:

C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.exe: PRESENT!

C:\Explorer.exe: not present
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer\Explorer.exe: not present
C:\WINDOWS\System\Explorer.exe: not present
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Explorer.exe: not present
C:\WINDOWS\Command\Explorer.exe: not present

--------------------------------------------------

C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK listing:
(Created 3/1/2001, 13:6:2)

[Rename]
NUL=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NVSYS\NVINST32.DLL
NUL=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NVSYS\palnc.rom

NUL=C:\WINDOWS\INF\jaton.inf

--------------------------------------------------

C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT listing:

@C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVG6\bootup.exe

--------------------------------------------------

Checking for superhidden extensions:

.lnk: HIDDEN! (arrow overlay: yes)
.pif: HIDDEN! (arrow overlay: yes)
.exe: not hidden
.com: not hidden
.bat: not hidden
.hta: not hidden
.scr: not hidden
.shs: HIDDEN!
.shb: HIDDEN!
.vbs: not hidden
.vbe: not hidden
.wsh: not hidden
.scf: HIDDEN! (arrow overlay: NO!)
.url: HIDDEN! (arrow overlay: yes)
.js: not hidden
.jse: not hidden

--------------------------------------------------

Enumerating Browser Helper Objects:

(no name) - C:\PROGRAM FILES\ADOBE\ACROBAT 5.0\READER\ACTIVEX\ACROIEHELPER.OCX - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3}

--------------------------------------------------

Enumerating Download Program Files:

[Update Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IUCTL.DLL
CODEBASE = http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.co...?37619.6871875

[Shockwave Flash Object]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MACROMED\FLASH\FLASH.OCX
CODEBASE = http://download.macromedia.com/pub/s...sh/swflash.cab

--------------------------------------------------
End of report, 7,517 bytes
Report generated in 0.534 seconds

Command line options:
/verbose - to add additional info on each section
/complete - to include empty sections and unsuspicious data
/force9x - to include Win9x-only startups even if running on WinNT
/forcent - to include WinNT-only startups even if running on Win9x
/forceall - to include all Win9x and WinNT startups, regardless of platform
/history - to list version history only

Woah, NUL=C:\WINDOWS etc. Is there because I recently reinstalled my video driver...Why is it still there after reboot?
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Old January 1st, 2003, 02:41 AM
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FREEZIP is a free, small un-zipper.

Click the "FREEZIP" link above, and when the web page loads, scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "FreeZip v1.4.9".

When the next page loads, scroll to the bottom and click on "Download 'FreeZip v1.4.9 (250kb) ".

When downloaded, double-click it and it will install.

Then you can right-click 'Startup List' and choose "Unzip here"

It will then unzip to that folder.

Double-click "StartupList.exe" , and it will create a "Startuplist.txt file.
The "Startuplist.txt" is the reference list to all start-up and running programs.
You can send the "Startuplist.txt" to someone to inspect and advise.

Copy and Paste it into a reply here for the lovely Annemarie to look at.

You may need to copy and paste it in two halves, as it may be too big for one post.

Happy New Year to you and to Annemarie.
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Old January 1st, 2003, 02:50 AM
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Thanks for the help Mike. A Happy New Year to you too

Hi again newbie24, just follow Mikes instructions and you will be fine. Post back if you think that you need more help. Its not a problem
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Old January 3rd, 2003, 08:40 PM
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I have a sneeking suuspicion that there is a conspiracy

between AnnMarie, ThunderDog and Mike to make me

computer literate. Be warned : It's not often that Old Dogs

learn new tricks. Thanks for your suggestions guys...still

afraid and unable to do the things you suggested I decided

to try something and it worked. Don't ask me why or how..

it's just that wild shot that hit the target. ....I ran Scandisk

Full Scan....took ages to finish; shut down the computer and

went to bed . Booted up on New Year's morning

and mysteriously the problem no longer exists. It's now

day 3 and counting. Enjoy the new Year guys.
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Old January 4th, 2003, 01:00 AM
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Hi newbie24 - I'm pleased your problem is fixed. Post back if you need to. We will be happy to walk you through any steps necessary to solve any issue. Happy New Year to ya
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