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[seer_claw]

WOW! Very nice homepage. I am impressed. It looks very nice and it was a nice touch since I have not been online for a few days.

[lufbra]

WOOHOO!!!!!!

It does look excellent, great work MISHY!!!!! :)

Dave.

[degsy]

Wonder how many NS4 users you have :lol

[MishY]

Very few according to the stats - less than 2% :)

Will be looking into making it better under NS4 however ;)

[degsy]

not much works good under NS4 :D

[MishY]

Nope - as much as I believe in W3C standards for accessibility and peoples right to choose their browser - people using old browser software like that just slows down the WHOLE progress of the web as a whole.

Besides if they wanna be ultra-l33t they should use Lynx or something :p

[dickster]

Had to take a second look to make sure I was at the right place!!
Looks great!!!! :D

[MishY]

The Forum template may not be in place till tomorrow.

Temporary solution for IE-only users = Go into UserCP > Options choose ya style set at the bottom (New Cyber Tech Help).

[degsy]

Full site overhaul then. Must have taken alot of time & effort.

Congrats.


one thing,
On the index page, the top menus, the Members part cuts off in IE, and repeats in Mozilla.

[MishY]

Degsy,

Can ya show me an image of that ? I am unable to duplicate the problem.

Thanks :)

[degsy]

IE6 SP1, WinME 1152x864
http://www.degs.co.uk/test/computerhelp/cth_menu_ie6.jpg


Moz 1.2.1
http://www.degs.co.uk/test/computerhelp/cth_menu_moz121.jpg


NS6.1
http://www.degs.co.uk/test/computerhelp/cth_menu_ns6.jpg

[MishY]

Degsy,

Will look into those issues....

Just a FYI -

Win2k, IE6SP1 has not got the problems you have in 1024*768

No wonder I couldn't duplicate the problem.

Thanks for posting those :)

[degsy]

no probs,
I get the same in 1024x768.

The menus work fine, it's just the members & underneath that look like that.

[MishY]

The rest of the site looks ok in those browsers ?

Does the menu look funny on any other pages ?

Have you tried the beta-CTH style set for the forums (I spent 5mins on them) ? How's that on those browsers ? (On NS4 it just spews hence why I mentioned IE only).

Today was not a good idea to become ill! :)

[degsy]

i'll give it a look & get back to you :)

[MishY]

Compat. problems with NS should be fixed now and I suspect those with Mozilla should be solved also. Can you verify this for me Degsy ?

Thanks mate :)

[degsy]

IE6 SP1, WinME 1152x864
http://www.degs.co.uk/test/computerhelp/cth_menu_ie6-1.jpg


Moz 1.2.1
http://www.degs.co.uk/test/computerhelp/cth_menu_moz121-1.jpg


NS6.1
http://www.degs.co.uk/test/computerhelp/cth_menu_ns6-1.jpg

[degsy]

Still doesn't load for me in NS4.7.
It actually hangs and give a not responding error.

[MishY]

Thanks Degsy.

As far as NS4 is concerned such a small amount of people who visit CTH use NS4 I am going to leave it as is for the time being. Why ? Because NS4 is old, useless, and holds back designers from being able to make beautiful websites. The technologies it cannot support are excellent. Those who use it are depriving themselves of more than they're gaining by whinging on about sites using CSS.

~ never thought I'd hear myself say that but it's true.

Will look into the other issues. Please check ya PMs :)

[30111987]

ye i'm getting the prob with members not showing correctly, i'm using avant browser (basically ie5.5), 800x600, windows me. Hope that helps. Other than that NICE! Also good as it didn't take too long to load on my 56k:)

[degsy]

Originally posted by MishY
Thanks Degsy.

As far as NS4 is concerned such a small amount of people who visit CTH use NS4 I am going to leave it as is for the time being. Why ? Because NS4 is old, useless, and holds back designers from being able to make beautiful websites. The technologies it cannot support are excellent. Those who use it are depriving themselves of more than they're gaining by whinging on about sites using CSS.

~ never thought I'd hear myself say that but it's true.

Will look into the other issues. Please check ya PMs :)

Won't load at all for me in NS4.7, you may consider a javascript redirection and use basic pages for NS4???

[MishY]

Degsy do you have a good Javascript example of that ?

I will redirect them straight to Netscape Updates :)

[degsy]

This will automatically redirect

<script>
var isNS4 = ((navigator.appName == "Netscape") && (navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Gecko") == -1));

if (isNS4) {
location.href='http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/default.jsp';
}
</script>



This produces a link

<script>
var isNS4 = ((navigator.appName == "Netscape") && (navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Gecko") == -1));

if (isNS4) {
document.write('<h1>Your browser is unable to load our pages, please update your browser at <a href="http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/default.jsp">Netscape Browser Central</a></h1>');
}
</script>

[MishY]

Thanks Degsy will look into that :)

Can you check the homepage with NS6 ? I have made some changes which Im hoping will have fixed the issues.

Thanks again!

[PostCode]

Here's a screen shot of the front page under Mozilla 1.3a.

http://www.comptechs.org/various/cth_mozilla_13a.jpg

Sorry about the image size. Wanted to get the entire thing in. I never was able to get the image to load though.

Hope this helps.

[MishY]

Thanks - can anyone verify whether the problems persist through the rest of the site or not please ?

Postcode can you recheck the front page now I have been tweaking it a little. BTW u block flash with mozilla ? can you allow it to load just for this example pls

[PostCode]

Interesting. Mozilla didn't even prompt me with the option to install the plugin. I didn't even know it was a flash animation until you told me. It just came across like it couldn't retrieve the image. Installed Flash Player for Mozilla and it's working fine now.

Here's an updated shot. Looks pretty good now.

http://www.comptechs.org/various/cth_mozilla_13b_2.jpg


Hope this helps.

[MishY]

Great thankyou Postcode :)

Do the inner pages look alright also ? specifically the downloads page and the tutorials page ?

Only NS6 to test now and I'll be happy :)

NS4 users will be redirected to the Netscape Update Center shortly.....

[PostCode]

Everything looks good. All the other pages are working fine. The only thing I saw that might be a confusion is the appearance of what looks like check boxes next to each of the downloads. I don't think it'll be an issue though.

http://www.comptechs.org/various/cth_mozilla_13b_3.jpg

Other than that, everything seems to be working properly. The DHTL in the menu is working fine. BTW, great job on the new layout. Very eleagant. :)

Hope this helps.

[MishY]

I'm glad you like it Postcode! and thanks for testing that stuff out for me :)

The "what look like checkboxes" is an image which hasn't been loaded on your page for some reason. So that isn't really a problem as the image path is correct.

What connection are you on ? How are you finding the site speed ?

MishY

[PostCode]

Both here and at home, I'm on a DSL connection. Page load times are good at work, but I've yet to load the home page at home yet. On average, with a clear cache, pages are loading in about 13 seconds from the time I type the url in and hit enter to the time the last items loads.

My laptop is an older one though. K6300, 256MB, running Windows 2K. Load times are more than likely going to be a bit faster with a faster computer. I think it's spending a few seconds processing data.


Hope this helps.

[MishY]

56K (IE6 SP1) (See profile dor system specs) clean cache

Forum pages for me load in under 6secs

Frontpage of CTH is the biggest page on the site which loads in under 13-20secs

The rest of CTH load between 6-10secs

Are the times you mention Postcode particularly slow for your connection ? Has it become slower considerably or just slightly ? Are you using the new CTH forum layout ?

Thanks again!

[seer_claw]

One link that is not working is the Free Newsletter icon on the hmepage. IE does not do anything. There is no indication that there is anything going on. Just thought that I would bring it up.

[MishY]

nah that won't work because I haven't sorted out the new newsletter system yet :) Will be getting on to that once I'm happy that everything else is working well. Thanks Seer ;)

[PostCode]

Page load times are about the same as they have always been on this laptop. I know times are faster with my home system. This laptop is just kinda doggity. hehe


Forum pages are loading pretty fast. Maybe a bit faster then the rest of the pages, but then the DB structure of vB has always been pretty dang fast.

[seer_claw]

I see! :) And the load time are just a couple of seconds for me, not more than 3-5 sec. The item that seems to take the longest to load are the nice drop in lettering and the cool guy with shades. :D

[degsy]

The top menu still looks the same for me in IE6 & NS6.1.
Maybe it's my Graphics Card :confused: (ATI AIW 128 Pro, Rage 128 Pro Chip)

The tutorial & download pages work fine, apart from the look of the top menu ofcourse.

[PostCode]

Looks good here from home. Load times are just a few seconds. Haven't been to the main page from here since the redesign either. Maybe 10 seconds for the initial load...a few seconds there after.

[jmtjet]

Congratulation on a job well done. Nice looking girl too. :)