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tomyt
September 23rd, 2003, 11:37 PM
PCI communacations device/// under properties i have no manufacturer but there is a hardware version (016) but have no clue what it is to find a driver for it
any suggestions or help? thanks for any thing to get me on track

GretaP
September 24th, 2003, 06:55 AM
Hi tomyt,
You could give this a try:

Open the registry editor (Start>Run key in regedit <ENTER>) and navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ Enum\PCI
When you expand PCI, you should see quite a few registry keys, with names in the general form such as this:
VEN_10B7&DEV_9004&SUBSYS_900410B7&REV_04
Each one corresponds to a PCI or AGP device on your system, and represents aVENDOR ID string and a DEVICE ID string. In my example,the Vendor ID is 10B7 and the "Device ID" is 9004
If you expand each one in turn, they should each have a sub-key labelled with a long hex number, for example:
3&61aaa01&0&58
Click on this sub-key, and look in the right pane for Class.........for the PCI communications device, Class Data might be "Unknown"
Also look at DeviceDesc, it will probably say something like "PCI communications device"
Look thru each of these subkeys for the one that has the Class Data value of (perhaps) "Unknown" and DeviceDesc of "PCI communications device" and and make a note of the Vendor ID and Device ID under which this was found.
Now, go here (http://www.yourvote.com/pci/pciread.asp?sort=venid)
Look up the Vendor ID (you might have to scroll quite a ways to find it). For mine, I looked up 0x10B7, which was related to 3COM Corporation. Now, click on the link for the Vendor. Then look up the Device ID. Mine was 0x9004, which returned this information:
Chip Number: 3C900-COMBO
Description: Fast Etherlink XL PCI Combo NIC
Notes: Same as 9000 with TP and BNC connector with TP and BNC connecto

Following the above, you should be able to find out who made the device and what it is, then that should give you a good idea of where to go to look for drivers for it.

Baser-X
September 24th, 2003, 06:48 PM
Wow! Thanks Greta! This info has been copied, pasted and stored for future reference. Wish I would have known this a few months back :) would have saved me a lot of time trying to determine that I had an additional firewire port that was not installing because of the soundcard drivers I was using.

tomyt
September 24th, 2003, 11:58 PM
Hi tomyt,
You could give this a try:

Open the registry editor (Start>Run key in regedit <ENTER>) and navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ Enum\PCI
When you expand PCI, you should see quite a few registry keys, with names in the general form such as this:
VEN_10B7&DEV_9004&SUBSYS_900410B7&REV_04
Each one corresponds to a PCI or AGP device on your system, and represents aVENDOR ID string and a DEVICE ID string. In my example,the Vendor ID is 10B7 and the "Device ID" is 9004
If you expand each one in turn, they should each have a sub-key labelled with a long hex number, for example:
3&61aaa01&0&58
Click on this sub-key, and look in the right pane for Class.........for the PCI communications device, Class Data might be "Unknown"
Also look at DeviceDesc, it will probably say something like "PCI communications device"
Look thru each of these subkeys for the one that has the Class Data value of (perhaps) "Unknown" and DeviceDesc of "PCI communications device" and and make a note of the Vendor ID and Device ID under which this was found.
Now, go here (http://www.yourvote.com/pci/pciread.asp?sort=venid)
Look up the Vendor ID (you might have to scroll quite a ways to find it). For mine, I looked up 0x10B7, which was related to 3COM Corporation. Now, click on the link for the Vendor. Then look up the Device ID. Mine was 0x9004, which returned this information:
Chip Number: 3C900-COMBO
Description: Fast Etherlink XL PCI Combo NIC
Notes: Same as 9000 with TP and BNC connector with TP and BNC connecto

Following the above, you should be able to find out who made the device and what it is, then that should give you a good idea of where to go to look for drivers for it.



thanks for the reply GretaP


found what you asked but not the same. i,m not seeing a vender ID or device ID....i have a hardware ID and compatibleID. went to that link but without a vender ID i still have no clue. any other ideas? :(

GretaP
September 25th, 2003, 05:32 AM
Did you find the key for which, in the right pane, DeviceDesc states "PCI communications device" (or something similar)?? If so, what does it state for HardwareID?

tomyt
September 25th, 2003, 10:13 AM
Did you find the key for which, in the right pane, DeviceDesc states "PCI communications device" (or something similar)?? If so, what does it state for HardwareID?

yes i found it. the hardware ID is the same as the VEN number in the left pane. it is is PCI\VEN-13F6&DEV-0211&SUBSYS-0S1113F6&REV-10

THERE IS IS ALSO ANOTHER WITH THE CLASS AS UN KNOWEN AND DEVICE DESC IS pci SERIAL CONTROLLER.....THE HARDWARE id FOR THAT ONE IS

PCI\VEN_127A&DEV_1003&SUBSYS_BOBCOE11&REV_01

ALL THE REST LOOK FINE AS I SEE A MFG. UNDER THEM ALL

GretaP
September 25th, 2003, 03:28 PM
13F6&DEV-0211&SUBSYS-0S1113F6&REV-10
Vendor ID is 13F6 which corresponds to C-Media Electronics, Inc., and Device ID is 0211 which corresopnds to cmi8738
Go here (http://www2.driverguide.com/uploads/uploads16/23029.html) to d/load the driver file.

PCI\VEN_127A&DEV_1003&SUBSYS_BOBCOE11&REV_01
Vendor ID is 127A which corresponds to Conexant Systems, and Device ID is 1003 which corresponds to HCF 56k V.90 Modem
Go to the modem support page (http://www.conexant.com/support/), click on the link for Modem Driver Assistance, scroll down and click on Agree button, scroll down to HCF Generic Modem Drivers heading and download the driver file for WinMe.

tomyt
September 26th, 2003, 12:57 AM
Vendor ID is 13F6 which corresponds to C-Media Electronics, Inc., and Device ID is 0211 which corresopnds to cmi8738
Go here (http://www2.driverguide.com/uploads/uploads16/23029.html) to d/load the driver file.


Vendor ID is 127A which corresponds to Conexant Systems, and Device ID is 1003 which corresponds to HCF 56k V.90 Modem
Go to the modem support page (http://www.conexant.com/support/), click on the link for Modem Driver Assistance, scroll down and click on Agree button, scroll down to HCF Generic Modem Drivers heading and download the driver file for WinMe.

thanks again

the c-media one dosn,t work when i open on this computer it shows what i need but put on disc and opened on the ME computer the file opened differantly like i was reading from a CD i got all the windows updates and that made my sound work but put this mixer thing in the com. and i see that in the file i downloaded with some nero stuff.......as for the modem one ....i downloaded something for that to under driver updates in windows update and all it did was install a second one of what i had and i couldn,t connect till i removed one ..... :confused:

GretaP
September 26th, 2003, 05:57 AM
You're welcome.

Sooooooo, after all that, where do you stand now as far as unknown devices in Device Manager, etc?

tomyt
September 27th, 2003, 12:18 AM
You're welcome.

Sooooooo, after all that, where do you stand now as far as unknown devices in Device Manager, etc?

Don,t know wha to say Gretap messed everything up first these files and windows updatevdon,t get along One deletes that other does it rally matter about devfice as i have, not encountered any concearn about it so far anyway?

GretaP
September 27th, 2003, 12:22 AM
If you're not encountering any immediate problems, then I'd leave things alone.

tomyt
September 27th, 2003, 10:49 AM
If you're not encountering any immediate problems, then I'd leave things alone.


my thoughts too,,,thanks for all your help,can,t say we didn,t try.

if i run into what it,s for some time i,ll be back :D