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Old December 13th, 2003, 08:26 PM
qwer9182 qwer9182 is offline
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Unhappy My favorite old game won't work

Hi,

Many years ago I downloaded the demo version of a really fun game called "Lemmings 3D" (sometimes called "3D Lemmings) and, to make a long story short, I forgot about every buying the full version and playing more of the game. Until about a year ago when I found the game for sale on eBay and purchased it. The only problem I have now is that I no longer have the original computer hardware on which I played the demo, and the game (which was originally for MS-DOS) refuses to work properly.

The game is giving me problems when it comes to memory and sound. On some computers (such as my Windows 98 machine) the game will refuse to start on the grounds that "no EMS memory managers were detected." On my Windows ME computer, the game blasts through the intro screens but runs fine once the gameplay actually begins. However, the only sound option that works is "general MIDI" within the game's setup program and this option is not available for sound, only music. So, I am unable to hear any sounds within the game.

On the Windows 98 computer, I have tried accessing the program properties to change the memory settings, but in the EMS memory options group the following message is displayed: "This computer is not configured for expanded memory in MS-DOS sessions." The 'details' button states that "the third-party memory management software has not been configured and that I should consult the documentation for instructions on how to enable it."

I have also tried an MS-DOS emulator, DOSBox. This did not solve my problems, either. With this program, the game ran quite slowly during the intro screens and actually stopped responding after that. Also, the settings refused to change while configuring the game from within DOSBox.

I need help running this game on Windows 98, Windows ME, or Windows XP. I have searched the Internet for all of the information I could find, but am still having problems. As I mentioned earlier, I am using Windows 98 and Windows ME, so any instructions for those operating systems would help. Also, I plan on setting up a computer with XP, but feel that will be even worse as it is even newer. Any advice/explanation to this would be appreciated.

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Old December 13th, 2003, 09:00 PM
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It's been years since I've had to deal with win98 and expanded memory, but here goes.

restart the win98 machine in ms-dos mode.

run the memmaker command (you might have to navigate to the correct directory to do this. I think it's in the c:/windows/command directory.) When you get the welcome screen, choose continue by hitting the enter key. You will then get a screen asking you to choose between express or custom setup, choose express setup. you will then be asked if you use any programs that require expanded memory, choose yes and finish following the program prompts. The system will reboot once or twice to check the new configuration. After you're back in win98, go ahead and adjust the properties of the program to use expanded memory.
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Old December 13th, 2003, 10:07 PM
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It's been years since I've had to deal with win98 and expanded memory, but here goes.

restart the win98 machine in ms-dos mode.

run the memmaker command (you might have to navigate to the correct directory to do this. I think it's in the c:/windows/command directory.) When you get the welcome screen, choose continue by hitting the enter key. You will then get a screen asking you to choose between express or custom setup, choose express setup. you will then be asked if you use any programs that require expanded memory, choose yes and finish following the program prompts. The system will reboot once or twice to check the new configuration. After you're back in win98, go ahead and adjust the properties of the program to use expanded memory.
There is no program called memmaker.* on this computer. Will I need the Windows 98 CD to do this?

If the problems with memory are resolved, there is still the issue of the sound. I hear that this is a problem with many old games as they try to use the sound hardware directly rather than through the operating system like newer applications? If a game is written to only work this way, is there any way around this to get the sound working?
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Old December 14th, 2003, 12:45 AM
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sorry, I got mixed up, dos 6.22 had that command, so it was available in windows 95.

let me look around and see if I can at least point you in the right direction
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