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Old January 24th, 2004, 11:27 AM
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Editing a win 98 boot floppy disc for pcmcia support

Hi ! I need some help...

I'm trying to install Win 98 on an old Dell laptop LM M133ST with external AMACOM Cd rom on PCMCIA port.

The standard boot floppy disc does not recognize external cd rom drive, no no further cd install possible.

I guess I have to copy the pcmcia driver on the floppy, but also have to edit the command lines. And I'm a rookie on DOS.

So please tell me how to do it properly.

Thanks...
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Old January 25th, 2004, 02:20 AM
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loading 98 from pcmcia

hello
i am new to this site
i am in the same boat as drjoss
i recently bought an old used laptop Thinkpad 560
it has no O/S i just want to use it to transfer files between my home and work pc
it has an external floppy drive
it also has an external cd-rom drive thru the pmcia slot
i have original 98 cd and driver floppy for cd-rom
i beleive i will have to make changes to the autexec and config files, but am unsure how to do this
i made a boot disk as suggested
now have an A: prompt
i do not know what to do next
any help would be appreciated

thanx

MacataQ
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Old January 25th, 2004, 06:11 AM
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hi

in config.sys you have to load the pcmci device driver before you make it load the cdrom device driver

in autoexec.bat where one launches mscdex.exe, you have to make sure you use same name for cdrom device than was used in config.sys

for instance
[config.sys]
device=himem.sys
device=pcmci.sys
device=pcmciCD.sys /D:cdrom001
lastdrive=z
files=60
buffers=20
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256


[autoexec.bat]
LH MSCDEX.EXE /D:cdrom001
SET DIRCMD=/w /o /p /a
set temp=c:\
set tmp=c:\


(the "name" was put in bold)
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Old January 25th, 2004, 04:07 PM
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solved

hello again
JTDoom , thank you for your response
i had not beeen putting the pcmcia driver line in the config file
in the right place so it would not see the cdrom....98 is loading as i type
hopefully all is good now...thanx again

one thing i did notice however
98 prompted me to make a startup disk so i placed a fresh floppy in drive and did so, but when i went in to look at the config file, it was the same as b4 i made the changes. why is that?

much thanx , and i think we can say at least my trouble is fixed, ggod luck to drjoss

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Old January 25th, 2004, 04:39 PM
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Hi again,
the start disk windows setup makes during setup is a standard start disk

as the word "standard" implies, they are all the same when you make them

so, for your mousetrap, you better make a diskcopy of the one you used to get setup going.

(I do hope you copied the cabinets (entire content of the win98 folder) to a folder on hard disk before you launched setup, and that you launched setup from within the copy you put on hard disk)

I hope to hear from drJoss too.
meanwhile, would you be so kind to paste the txt of config.sys and autoexec.bat from that floppy you edited to get setup going into a post here?

this could help drjoss in making his changes...
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Old January 25th, 2004, 08:45 PM
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re: pcmcia

hi here they are
[menu]
menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support.
menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support.
menuitem=HELP, View the Help file.
menudefault=CD,30
menucolor=7,0

[CD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off
device=pcmi80cl.sys /D:mscd001......i added this line
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=statpcdm.sys /D:mscd001...... i added this line
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:mscd001

[NOCD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[HELP]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[COMMON]
files=10
buffers=10
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048
lastdrive=z

@ECHO OFF
set EXPAND=YES
SET DIRCMD=/O:N
set LglDrv=27 * 26 Z 25 Y 24 X 23 W 22 V 21 U 20 T 19 S 18 R 17 Q 16 P 15
set LglDrv=%LglDrv% O 14 N 13 M 12 L 11 K 10 J 9 I 8 H 7 G 6 F 5 E 4 D 3 C
cls
call setramd.bat %LglDrv%
set temp=c:\
set tmp=c:\
path=%RAMD%:\;a:\;%CDROM%:\
copy command.com %RAMD%:\ > NUL
set comspec=%RAMD%:\command.com
copy extract.exe %RAMD%:\ > NUL
copy readme.txt %RAMD%:\ > NUL

:ERROR
IF EXIST ebd.cab GOTO EXT
echo Please insert Windows 98 Startup Disk 2
echo.
pause
GOTO ERROR

:EXT
%RAMD%:\extract /y /e /l %RAMD%: ebd.cab > NUL
echo The diagnostic tools were successfully loaded to drive %RAMD%.
echo.

IF "%config%"=="NOCD" GOTO QUIT
IF "%config%"=="HELP" GOTO HELP
LH %ramd%:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:%CDROM%
echo.
GOTO QUIT

:HELP
cls
call help.bat
echo Your computer will now restart and the startup menu will appear.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
i realize that all of the commands in these files are probably no required , but i didnt want to remove any , just in case
macataq

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Old January 25th, 2004, 08:49 PM
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for drjoss

http://www.amacom-tech.com/support_b...p?product=18#3

under drivers, you find a download for pcmca installer for DOS
(and drivers for the various windows versions too...)

I suggest you unzip this, and put contents on a floppy
you will see it has mscdex.exe as well as dossetup.exe, and this can install pcmi80cl.sys and a few other driver (sys) files

I also suggest you make a bootable floppy with basic DOS files on it so as to get your laptop going

you need two floppy disks
this is described here
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/...st.php?p=61117

you can install the drivers onto the laptop's hard disk (i think that's gonna be the easier), or try make a floppy that loads the drivers on another machine

either way, the one with DOSsetup.exe (the installer) is needed
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Old January 25th, 2004, 09:05 PM
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AHA
thanks...

okey, lets get to it
the extra files to be put on the start disk are files found in the zipped download
so you unzip it and put the drivers onto a start disk
it got macataq going... and I see he needed only two files.
so, you copy the two files to your start floppy
pcmi80cl.sys
statpcdm.sys

(if short on space, you can delete a few chosen files there...)
for space, you can delete any of these...
(your laptop don't need them)

btdosm.sys
Flashpt.sys
aspi2dos.sys
aspi8dos.sys
spi4dos.sys
aspi8u2.sys
aspicd.sys

============
now you do the editing...
edit A:config.sys

[menu]
menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support.
menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support.
menuitem=HELP, View the Help file.
menudefault=CD,30
menucolor=7,0

[CD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off
device=pcmi80cl.sys /D:mscd001
device=statpcdm.sys /D:mscd001

[NOCD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[HELP]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[COMMON]
files=10
buffers=10
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048
lastdrive=z

@ECHO OFF
set EXPAND=YES
SET DIRCMD=/O:N
set LglDrv=27 * 26 Z 25 Y 24 X 23 W 22 V 21 U 20 T 19 S 18 R 17 Q 16 P 15
set LglDrv=%LglDrv% O 14 N 13 M 12 L 11 K 10 J 9 I 8 H 7 G 6 F 5 E 4 D 3 C
cls
call setramd.bat %LglDrv%
set temp=c:\
set tmp=c:\
path=%RAMD%:\;a:\;%CDROM%:\
copy command.com %RAMD%:\ > NUL
set comspec=%RAMD%:\command.com
copy extract.exe %RAMD%:\ > NUL
copy readme.txt %RAMD%:\ > NUL

:ERROR
IF EXIST ebd.cab GOTO EXT
echo Please insert Windows 98 Startup Disk 2
echo.
pause
GOTO ERROR

:EXT
%RAMD%:\extract /y /e /l %RAMD%: ebd.cab > NUL
echo The diagnostic tools were successfully loaded to drive %RAMD%.
echo.

IF "%config%"=="NOCD" GOTO QUIT
IF "%config%"=="HELP" GOTO HELP
LH %ramd%:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:%CDROM%
echo.
GOTO QUIT

:HELP
cls
call help.bat
echo Your computer will now restart and the startup menu will appear.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.

Last edited by jtdoom; January 25th, 2004 at 09:10 PM.
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