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[aces99]

well i did what gretap said to do but it says i need a pemanent folder to put it on and that they cant find d:\i386
what do i do
please help
aces99

[GretaP]

I don't recall the portion of setup where it needs a permanent folder to put it on....perhaps you're referring to where it asks which partition you're wanting to install 2K in? If so, does it not state anywhere on that screen that you have the option to press C to Create a partition in the unpartitioned space?

[aces99]

I don't recall the portion of setup where it needs a permanent folder to put it on....perhaps you're referring to where it asks which partition you're wanting to install 2K in? If so, does it not state anywhere on that screen that you have the option to press C to Create a partition in the unpartitioned space?
it doesnt give me that option

[GretaP]

Okay....normally WIN2K Setup routine will give you the option to create and then format the partitions if the disk just has unallocated space on it (i.e., has not been partitioned or formatted), but I have run into cases where the disk has to be partitioned and formatted prior to running WIN2K setup via the 4 setup disks or via running WINNT from a WIN98/WINME startup floppy disk. Perhaps you'll have to partition and then format the partition prior to installing WIN2K......do you know how to do this using FDISK on the startup floppy disk (to partition)? If so, please use a WIN98 startup disk (can't recall whether you're using a WIN98 or WINME startup disk, or whether you mentioned the type that you're using), as there's something that's different about the format command on a WINME startup disk, and it might botch your WIN2K install.

I'm assuming that you're trying to install WIN2K on a hard drive that has not yet been partitioned.....if my assumption is incorrect, please let me know. If you aren't sure of how to create a partition using FDISK, follow the instructions in this tutorial (http://www.cybertechhelp.com/html/tutorials/tutorial.php/id/37). You'll have to format it as FAT32, because WIN9x startup disks cannot format NTFS (you can convert it to NTFS once 2K is installed, though). Once you have the partition created and formatted, try installing 2K again.

This is why it's soooo much easier to boot from the install CD in order to run Setup.......you can do the partitioning/formatting/installing all from within the Setup routine. Have you checked to see whether or not your computer supports booting from CD?

[aces99]

Okay....normally WIN2K Setup routine will give you the option to create and then format the partitions if the disk just has unallocated space on it (i.e., has not been partitioned or formatted), but I have run into cases where the disk has to be partitioned and formatted prior to running WIN2K setup via the 4 setup disks or via running WINNT from a WIN98/WINME startup floppy disk. Perhaps you'll have to partition and then format the partition prior to installing WIN2K......do you know how to do this using FDISK on the startup floppy disk (to partition)? If so, please use a WIN98 startup disk (can't recall whether you're using a WIN98 or WINME startup disk, or whether you mentioned the type that you're using), as there's something that's different about the format command on a WINME startup disk, and it might botch your WIN2K install.

I'm assuming that you're trying to install WIN2K on a hard drive that has not yet been partitioned.....if my assumption is incorrect, please let me know. If you aren't sure of how to create a partition using FDISK, follow the instructions in this tutorial (http://www.cybertechhelp.com/html/tutorials/tutorial.php/id/37). You'll have to format it as FAT32, because WIN9x startup disks cannot format NTFS (you can convert it to NTFS once 2K is installed, though). Once you have the partition created and formatted, try installing 2K again.

This is why it's soooo much easier to boot from the install CD in order to run Setup.......you can do the partitioning/formatting/installing all from within the Setup routine. Have you checked to see whether or not your computer supports booting from CD?

wellw2k is on my system already. i was on the internet yesterday then it stopped responding, so i restarted my comp and it went to a ntoskrnl.exe problem

[GretaP]

Can you state the exact error message that you received/are receiving, and now I'm also assuming that you can't boot into WIN2K now, correct?

[aces99]

Can you state the exact error message that you received/are receiving, and now I'm also assuming that you can't boot into WIN2K now, correct?
no i cant boot into w2k
the message reads as follows: w2k requires a hard drive volume with at least 212mb of free disk space for temporary files during installation. The drive must be on a permanently attached local hard disk,supported by w2k and must be a compressed drive.
Setup was unable to locate such a drive with the required amount of free space.
setup was unable to continue.

What does this mean and what o i do.

Thanks

aces99

[GretaP]

Ooops.......I meant what is the exact error message you're receiving regarding the ntoskrnl.exe problem.
What happens when you try to boot "normally" into 2K, do you receive any particular error messages?
I'm trying to see if there is a way of solving the problem with 2K without having to delete the current partition (destroying ALL data that is currently on the drive, thus you would lose anything you had saved to the 2K partition), as it sounds like there's not enough room to store the temporary files for setup, which you would need it to do before you can invoke an install (even a repair install).

I'm wondering now also if the entire hard drive has gone south on you.......boot to the startup floppy disk, choose to start WITHOUT CDROM SUPPORT, and when you get to the A: prompt, key in:
FDISK
<ENTER>
If prompted about enabling large disk support and/or large disk support for NTFS, respond Yes.
When at the FDISK Options menu, key in 4 to Display partition information. Please post back here the results of that.

[aces99]

Ooops.......I meant what is the exact error message you're receiving regarding the ntoskrnl.exe problem.
What happens when you try to boot "normally" into 2K, do you receive any particular error messages?
I'm trying to see if there is a way of solving the problem with 2K without having to delete the current partition (destroying ALL data that is currently on the drive, thus you would lose anything you had saved to the 2K partition), as it sounds like there's not enough room to store the temporary files for setup, which you would need it to do before you can invoke an install (even a repair install).

I'm wondering now also if the entire hard drive has gone south on you.......boot to the startup floppy disk, choose to start WITHOUT CDROM SUPPORT, and when you get to the A: prompt, key in:
FDISK
<ENTER>
If prompted about enabling large disk support and/or large disk support for NTFS, respond Yes.
When at the FDISK Options menu, key in 4 to Display partition information. Please post back here the results of that.
when i do this i get to fdisk and i cant create oe delte or extend partion
it say i have 38162 mb but no space to create partition
i only had 17 gig availabe lol
what do i do now?
on the ntoskrnl.exe
it sai i had missing or corrupt file and can go any further


aces99

[GretaP]

Okay, try invoking the Advanced Options menu in order to try to load Windows to the Last Known Good Configuration. When you start/restart your computer (without a floppy disk), keep pressing F8 until you (hopefully!) get the Advanced Options menu. At this menu, choose the number that corresponds to "Last Known Good Configuration" (or wording to that effect).

If the above doesn't work, you might have to follow the instructions in this MSKB article (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=124550) (Method Two mentions the three NT setup disks.....for WIN2K, that's the four setup disks). You'll probably also need to Create a Bootable Disk for an NTFS or FAT Partition (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=119467). If you only have the one partition, your boot.ini file probably should look like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect