yomama
December 5th, 2004, 04:46 PM
Badwayz, I went out and bought a router. Hubby said to get a real good one and then we wouldn't have to be buying another one anytime soon, so I got a Linksys G Wireless. Now I hope I can get everything going without having to call out a tech person to the house. I certainly wouldn't get the guy that we did have. Anyway, I see there are instructions inside the box and am wondering if they are pretty much self-explanatory or if I will run into some unforeseen problem. I hope you don't mind if l go ahead and ask as many as I can think of right away. Please bear with me; this will get long.
Okay, first of all, do I have to remove the old Addtron router from the computer (I know I have to physically disconnect the wires, but I mean find it on the computer somewhere and take it off of here like when you remove programs that you no longer want? If I have to remove it, I wouldn't know where to go to or what to do after I get there.
Under the first section "Connect the Broadband Router" in the instruction booklet that came with the new router it says, "Before you begin, make sure that you have the setup information for your specific type of Internet connection. The installation technician from your ISP should have left this information with you after installing your broadband connection. If not, you can call your ISP to request the settings." I have no idea what information they're talking about; the cable guy ran cable into the house, put a cd in, did some stuff and got us connected but didn't leave any information here. If I have no way of finding this information out myself by looking on the computer somewhere, then I would have to wait until Monday morning to ask them and I wouldn't even know what to ask them anyway. I had wanted to try to set this up this weekend while my daughter is here from college with her laptop so I can see that everything works (or if it would happen to not work...I don't even want to think about that last one). Okay, I understand all of those instructions in step 1, but I am questioning something now that the salesguy at Staples told me. He said to me to have the router configured on the computers before I plug the router adapter cord into an outlet. BUT here reading the booklet, in step 1 it says to plug everything in and turn it on and THEN in step 2 it has you configure the PCs and step 3 the routers, so it's backwards from what he had told me. Should I just go by the book and forget what that guy told me?
Now we go onto Step 2 "Configure the PCs"...Right away I don't know what it's saying: "For Windows 98, Millennium, and XP using the default interface, refer to the User Guide on the Setup CD-ROM or your Windows documentation." HUH?? I don't even know what a default interface is. Sorry, but I didn't grow up using computers, so probably the simplest of things to a 20 or 30 year old are over my head. Just like I don't know what they are trying to say in the very next sentence in Step 2: "The following instructions apply only to Windows 2000 or XP using the Classic Interface (in which the icons and menus look like previous Windows versions)." Well, I know that we have Windows XP, but don't ask me if we're default or classic interface. So now I am not sure whether to go by the Setup CD-Rom User Guide or it I should follow the instructions in the booklet under Step 2??? Badwayz, maybe you even have this same booklet at home and know exactly what I'm referring to. I wish I knew how the CD instructions differ from the booklet instructions. Oh, also under Step 2, am I understanding right that I have to put the CD in each computer and do the same instructions (whichever ones I'm supposed to go by) on each computer before moving onto step 3?
Steps A and B under Step 3 sound easy enough, but Step C has me scratching my head: "The web-based utility will appear with the Setup tab selected. If requested by your ISP (usually cable ISPs), complete the Host Name and Domain Name fields. Otherwise, leave them blank." Is this the part of the instructions that the very first Step in the book was referring to where it said about having the setup information for my type of internet connection? That's the part I don't know and don't know if I can look up that information on the computer somewhere. If not, I guess I'll have to call the cable company on Monday and ask them and hope they know what I'm talking about. Step D says: "For the Configuration Type setting, four connections types are offered through the dropdown menu. Each Setup screen and available features will differ depending on which connection type you select." I think I would probably select the first choice, Automatic Confiruration - DHCP. I don't know what DHCP means, but since it says to keep that default setting "if you are connecting through DHCP or a dynamic IP address from your ISP", I'm guessing that I would just use this first setting since we have a dynamic IP address (yes, I do know that much, believe it or not lol). Steps E, F, and G are pretty easy, but Step H has me stumped: "Wireless Network Name (SSID). The SSID is the network name shared among all points in a wireless network. The SSID must be identical for all points in the wireless network. It is case-sensitive and must not exceed 32 characters (use any of the characters of the keyboard). Make sure this setting is the same for all points in your wireless network. For added security, you should change the default SSID (linksys) to a unique name." I think that booklet assumes that I know what I'm doing...I don't! By "all points in the wireless network", they do mean every computer that's hooked up on the network, I guess. If these points all have to have the same name (I assume they are talking about each computer), and a person is setting up the network with everything connected and doing the router configuring just on the one computer, doesn't it make the SSID name the same on all of them? Or am I not understanding it right? If they are all set up with the same name when configuring the router, is there a way that this name can be changed later on (when not configuring the router). I wouldn't know what to select for Step I: Wireless Channel. Select the appropriate channel from the list provided to correspond with your network settings. All devices in your wireless network must be broadcast on the same channel in order to function correctly." First of all, I don't know what to select, and second of all, I'm wondering the same thing that I was in Step H...how can they be different if you're configuring the router using the one computer? I'm assuming it sets them all up the same then at the same time when you're doing the configuring. The reason I have this understanding is from the first thing that is in the booklet under Step 3: "These instructions will show you how to configure the router. You only need to configure the router once using any computer you have set up." In Step J Wireless SSID Broadcast, should I keep the default setting, Enable? Step K says, Change these settings as described here and click the Save Settings button to apply your changes." I'm not sure what to do here except to do that last part (Save Settings). Step L is easy enough..."Restart your computer" I can handle that one! lol Then in Step M, they give the URL to go to to test the setup (to register the router).
Okay, I'm going backwards here....I just noticed right above step 1 in the booklet, it says you can either use the Setup CD-ROM to configure the router OR you can use "this Quick installation guide". Maybe the CD will explain things better and then some of my above questions would be answered? Even so, I bet I'd still be confused about some things and still run into things where I wouldn't know what to do.
Now a big question just popped into my head and I hope I won't run into problems (well, I guess if anyone would maybe have some problems at some point, it would be my daughter). She is somehow connected to her college computer network, although I don't know what she had to do to her computer to get on it, like if she had to change any settings of anything on her computer when she started school in August. If she has her computer set to get on the college network, would anything I do when setting this up change anything on hers to make it unusable up at college? I think I remember that she did have to do something after she was up there so that she could get on their network, but I don't know what, and I honestly doubt if she would even remember. Although she's 19 and grew up using computers in school, getting into the technical aspect never interested her, so she doesn't actually know much more about them than I do. I'm just afraid that in setting the router up here and getting both our home pc and her laptop (wireless) working here, that I might unknowingly change something on her computer that's necessary for her to be on the college network. Knowing that that is a possibility (I'm just guessing though), I'm also wondering then if she will have to be changing things back and forth from when she's up there using her laptop to when she brings it home to use here. I just had a flashing thought that this might have been the problem all along (getting disconnected pretty often), instead it being the old router, that something got changed on her laptop after she was up at college that would affect her staying connected while she's here with it. Thing is, our computer gets disconnected too after awhile if we have them hooked up to the Addtron router. Also, seeing as how we've had this problem with the router before she even had her laptop, I still think the whole issue is this junky router ($200 worth of junk!).
I hope that after doing all this that it won't somehow affect the connection our daughter has up at college, as the students are all on a network there. Surely other people take their laptops back and forth between school and home, so it's either not a problem at all or one that can be worked around/changed.
Geez, your eyes are probably bugging out by now! I'm really starting to wish you computer wizards lived close to me and I could call you on the phone to ask you this stuff. It would sure be a heck of a lot easier than typing all this out, and now I feel kind of bad because to answer my questions you'll probably have to type a lot back as a reply. Of course, I suppose you could always choose not to answer me. In that case, I'd have two choices: return this router to the store within the next two weeks and get my money back OR try to find someone in the area who actually knows what he's doing. I'm just not sure how to go about this. I actually am kind of dreading even starting it for fear of messing up and then not having any connection at all. This is a rural area and I don't know of any other computer "geek" around here besides the one we had already had to the house who only seems to know what he's doing for the half. I trust you guys on here more than I do him. It's just that he's more convenient being that I can actually talk to him instead of typing; however, little good that does me if he doesn't know how to keep us connected either.
Thank you so much for the help you've given me so far and for taking the time to read this gigantic post. I'm sorry it got so long, but being that I'm so computer-dumb, I have so many questions.
Okay, first of all, do I have to remove the old Addtron router from the computer (I know I have to physically disconnect the wires, but I mean find it on the computer somewhere and take it off of here like when you remove programs that you no longer want? If I have to remove it, I wouldn't know where to go to or what to do after I get there.
Under the first section "Connect the Broadband Router" in the instruction booklet that came with the new router it says, "Before you begin, make sure that you have the setup information for your specific type of Internet connection. The installation technician from your ISP should have left this information with you after installing your broadband connection. If not, you can call your ISP to request the settings." I have no idea what information they're talking about; the cable guy ran cable into the house, put a cd in, did some stuff and got us connected but didn't leave any information here. If I have no way of finding this information out myself by looking on the computer somewhere, then I would have to wait until Monday morning to ask them and I wouldn't even know what to ask them anyway. I had wanted to try to set this up this weekend while my daughter is here from college with her laptop so I can see that everything works (or if it would happen to not work...I don't even want to think about that last one). Okay, I understand all of those instructions in step 1, but I am questioning something now that the salesguy at Staples told me. He said to me to have the router configured on the computers before I plug the router adapter cord into an outlet. BUT here reading the booklet, in step 1 it says to plug everything in and turn it on and THEN in step 2 it has you configure the PCs and step 3 the routers, so it's backwards from what he had told me. Should I just go by the book and forget what that guy told me?
Now we go onto Step 2 "Configure the PCs"...Right away I don't know what it's saying: "For Windows 98, Millennium, and XP using the default interface, refer to the User Guide on the Setup CD-ROM or your Windows documentation." HUH?? I don't even know what a default interface is. Sorry, but I didn't grow up using computers, so probably the simplest of things to a 20 or 30 year old are over my head. Just like I don't know what they are trying to say in the very next sentence in Step 2: "The following instructions apply only to Windows 2000 or XP using the Classic Interface (in which the icons and menus look like previous Windows versions)." Well, I know that we have Windows XP, but don't ask me if we're default or classic interface. So now I am not sure whether to go by the Setup CD-Rom User Guide or it I should follow the instructions in the booklet under Step 2??? Badwayz, maybe you even have this same booklet at home and know exactly what I'm referring to. I wish I knew how the CD instructions differ from the booklet instructions. Oh, also under Step 2, am I understanding right that I have to put the CD in each computer and do the same instructions (whichever ones I'm supposed to go by) on each computer before moving onto step 3?
Steps A and B under Step 3 sound easy enough, but Step C has me scratching my head: "The web-based utility will appear with the Setup tab selected. If requested by your ISP (usually cable ISPs), complete the Host Name and Domain Name fields. Otherwise, leave them blank." Is this the part of the instructions that the very first Step in the book was referring to where it said about having the setup information for my type of internet connection? That's the part I don't know and don't know if I can look up that information on the computer somewhere. If not, I guess I'll have to call the cable company on Monday and ask them and hope they know what I'm talking about. Step D says: "For the Configuration Type setting, four connections types are offered through the dropdown menu. Each Setup screen and available features will differ depending on which connection type you select." I think I would probably select the first choice, Automatic Confiruration - DHCP. I don't know what DHCP means, but since it says to keep that default setting "if you are connecting through DHCP or a dynamic IP address from your ISP", I'm guessing that I would just use this first setting since we have a dynamic IP address (yes, I do know that much, believe it or not lol). Steps E, F, and G are pretty easy, but Step H has me stumped: "Wireless Network Name (SSID). The SSID is the network name shared among all points in a wireless network. The SSID must be identical for all points in the wireless network. It is case-sensitive and must not exceed 32 characters (use any of the characters of the keyboard). Make sure this setting is the same for all points in your wireless network. For added security, you should change the default SSID (linksys) to a unique name." I think that booklet assumes that I know what I'm doing...I don't! By "all points in the wireless network", they do mean every computer that's hooked up on the network, I guess. If these points all have to have the same name (I assume they are talking about each computer), and a person is setting up the network with everything connected and doing the router configuring just on the one computer, doesn't it make the SSID name the same on all of them? Or am I not understanding it right? If they are all set up with the same name when configuring the router, is there a way that this name can be changed later on (when not configuring the router). I wouldn't know what to select for Step I: Wireless Channel. Select the appropriate channel from the list provided to correspond with your network settings. All devices in your wireless network must be broadcast on the same channel in order to function correctly." First of all, I don't know what to select, and second of all, I'm wondering the same thing that I was in Step H...how can they be different if you're configuring the router using the one computer? I'm assuming it sets them all up the same then at the same time when you're doing the configuring. The reason I have this understanding is from the first thing that is in the booklet under Step 3: "These instructions will show you how to configure the router. You only need to configure the router once using any computer you have set up." In Step J Wireless SSID Broadcast, should I keep the default setting, Enable? Step K says, Change these settings as described here and click the Save Settings button to apply your changes." I'm not sure what to do here except to do that last part (Save Settings). Step L is easy enough..."Restart your computer" I can handle that one! lol Then in Step M, they give the URL to go to to test the setup (to register the router).
Okay, I'm going backwards here....I just noticed right above step 1 in the booklet, it says you can either use the Setup CD-ROM to configure the router OR you can use "this Quick installation guide". Maybe the CD will explain things better and then some of my above questions would be answered? Even so, I bet I'd still be confused about some things and still run into things where I wouldn't know what to do.
Now a big question just popped into my head and I hope I won't run into problems (well, I guess if anyone would maybe have some problems at some point, it would be my daughter). She is somehow connected to her college computer network, although I don't know what she had to do to her computer to get on it, like if she had to change any settings of anything on her computer when she started school in August. If she has her computer set to get on the college network, would anything I do when setting this up change anything on hers to make it unusable up at college? I think I remember that she did have to do something after she was up there so that she could get on their network, but I don't know what, and I honestly doubt if she would even remember. Although she's 19 and grew up using computers in school, getting into the technical aspect never interested her, so she doesn't actually know much more about them than I do. I'm just afraid that in setting the router up here and getting both our home pc and her laptop (wireless) working here, that I might unknowingly change something on her computer that's necessary for her to be on the college network. Knowing that that is a possibility (I'm just guessing though), I'm also wondering then if she will have to be changing things back and forth from when she's up there using her laptop to when she brings it home to use here. I just had a flashing thought that this might have been the problem all along (getting disconnected pretty often), instead it being the old router, that something got changed on her laptop after she was up at college that would affect her staying connected while she's here with it. Thing is, our computer gets disconnected too after awhile if we have them hooked up to the Addtron router. Also, seeing as how we've had this problem with the router before she even had her laptop, I still think the whole issue is this junky router ($200 worth of junk!).
I hope that after doing all this that it won't somehow affect the connection our daughter has up at college, as the students are all on a network there. Surely other people take their laptops back and forth between school and home, so it's either not a problem at all or one that can be worked around/changed.
Geez, your eyes are probably bugging out by now! I'm really starting to wish you computer wizards lived close to me and I could call you on the phone to ask you this stuff. It would sure be a heck of a lot easier than typing all this out, and now I feel kind of bad because to answer my questions you'll probably have to type a lot back as a reply. Of course, I suppose you could always choose not to answer me. In that case, I'd have two choices: return this router to the store within the next two weeks and get my money back OR try to find someone in the area who actually knows what he's doing. I'm just not sure how to go about this. I actually am kind of dreading even starting it for fear of messing up and then not having any connection at all. This is a rural area and I don't know of any other computer "geek" around here besides the one we had already had to the house who only seems to know what he's doing for the half. I trust you guys on here more than I do him. It's just that he's more convenient being that I can actually talk to him instead of typing; however, little good that does me if he doesn't know how to keep us connected either.
Thank you so much for the help you've given me so far and for taking the time to read this gigantic post. I'm sorry it got so long, but being that I'm so computer-dumb, I have so many questions.