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Bill
January 26th, 2001, 06:28 AM
Most of the pictures at my photopage are in the end result converted to .jpg by pictureveiwer or photodeluxe. They originally were in either tif or some such format.

I've been thinking for some time now to convert them over to photoshop .jpg (format) for the
reason that I could reduce the file size (K) down considerably yet still keep the quality of each
picture in tact.
Two reasons why I haven't done the change is, as it stands they to my eyes look fine and the second reason is it would be a pain in the a** !!! Not to say very time consuming!!

I do have the originals in zips or cd-rs which I could start from there and work down to PS.jpg. Or I could grab each picture at my photopage (pictureveiwer.jpg) one at a time and convert it to PS.psd then finish with PS.jpg . Either way would take alot of work and time. Basically starting over with photopage.
If thats the case then I've been giving some thought of moving my photopage to another server which offers more space (not much more). That way I could leave my existing photopage as is and build the new one at my leisure plus improve some mistakes from my past ignorance.

Below is a couple images of the same picture. One came from my photopage as is (pictureveiwer.jpg) at 82K. The other one I converted from the pictureveiwer to .psd , then to photoshop .jpg which is about 40K just to *test* my brainstorm/hair brain idea. I realize one shouldn't go from jpg to psd then back to jpg but...

AS IS (http://user.netomia.com/palws/falls.jpg)

PS (http://user.netomia.com/palws/fallsPS.jpg)

OK back to the sixty-four dollar question!!
"Why do you want to go through all this effort/work/crap?!?.. When your photopage is just fine the way it stands! I like it!" Geeesss I just talked myself out of it. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

I blame this wacky idea on the rain which a curtain *thor* that must live in Oregon sent it down here....

-Bill-




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zipulrich
January 26th, 2001, 09:06 AM
Hope you don't mind, the "as is" photo is now my wallpaper. Converted, it looks too grainy.
joost
January 26th, 2001, 07:00 PM
I have to agree with zipulrich, converted, it is too grainy, “as is” is a very sharp image. I also went to your web site and looked at some of your other pictures, which are very nice, I might add, and I don’t think that the savings you may get in size reduction would make that much of a difference in the in the speed of loading to make it worth the time you would spend converting them. I’m looking forward to looking at the rest of your pictures when I get a chance.

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Buzz
January 26th, 2001, 07:56 PM
IAWZ & J

If you really feel like it, you do need to use the original Tiff files with Photoshop and forget about Pictureviewer altogether. Using Pictureviewer to converts a jpg to psd then Photoshop to go back to jpg will, as you stated, give you poorer quality images.

Loading speed is important but on personal pages where people are expecting to see a lot of images they are far more tolerant if things take a bit longer to load.

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Bill
January 26th, 2001, 08:06 PM
zipulrich help yourself. That is what the pic are there for.

So you and joost both think/see through your monitors that the PS pic is to grainy.?. Hmmm I guess your correct sense I'm on a 15" with 800 x 600. Thanks guys/gals although I did talk myself out of it before finishing that post if you noticed. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Have a good one.
Bill

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Bill
January 26th, 2001, 08:12 PM
IAWZ & J & Buzz

Hey where did you come from..&lt;grin&gt;
Yeah I knew the convertion with PV was going
make it look bad.

Hows it feel speedie to be on dsl?
btw..click on the ps link now..I cheated. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/smile.gif
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joost
January 26th, 2001, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Bill:
zipulrich help yourself. That is what the pic are there for.

So you and joost both think/see through your monitors that the PS pic is to grainy.?. Hmmm I guess your correct sense I'm on a 15" with 800 x 600. Thanks guys/gals although I did talk myself out of it before finishing that post if you noticed. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Have a good one.
Bill




I'm not saying "too grainy". It was just something that I noticed. Had I not compaired the pics side by side, I might not have noticed at all.


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Buzz
January 26th, 2001, 08:56 PM
Hey Bill... check here about the DSL http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000720.html

I'm at the office right now though.......

How'd you cheat? Just change the name of the file?

I'm with joost on this one..... I didn't compare the 2 side by side to begin with. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Buzz
January 26th, 2001, 08:58 PM
Oh and I did notice you talked your self out of it. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Bill
January 26th, 2001, 09:39 PM
So ya have to wait a bit longer for dsl. Just don't think about it every hour and time will
fly by. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Cheat: I yanked the PS "38K" off the server and replaced it with a 68/70K (same file name) http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/smile.gif

SEE ME

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Bill
January 26th, 2001, 10:25 PM
joost sorry that I didn't reply back to directly! It's a bad habit of mine which I doubt I'll
ever break. &lt;smile&gt;
I read your thread up above. Very impressive background!!! Speaking of opps...<FONT COLOR="brown"><FONT size="4">Welcome to CyberTechHelp</FONT c></FONT s>..
I'm sure you knowledge will be very beneficial to the board.

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Bill
January 26th, 2001, 10:56 PM
Oh and joost when you talk to the man Mishy (creator/owner of this board), you will find
he is very cool in all respects. EXCEPT don't put a handle in front of Mishy!!
Example: Mr.-your greatness- sir,etc etc.
Once a long time ago I made the mistake of putting a "sir" in front of Mishy on a thread and for some reason everytime I posted (for days mind ya) my post would end up here!! (http://pub11.ezboard.com/bfreecomputertechhelp) &lt;grin&gt;

Just kidding joost. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Steven.Bentley
January 27th, 2001, 01:25 PM
The best jpeg shrinker I ever came across is jpeg wizard, from www.jpegwizard.com (http://www.jpegwizard.com)

It's free for a start and you can define areas of the image and apply a different level of compression to them.

There is an online version but it's not all that great http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/wink.gif

It's a shame there isn't a Mac version of the standalone app

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joost
January 31st, 2001, 10:17 PM
Hi Bill, thanks for the welcome! <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I read your thread up above. Very impressive background!!! Speaking of oops...Welcome to CyberTechHelp..
I'm sure you knowledge will be very beneficial to the board.</font>
Was this the thread (http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000718.html) that you were talking about? If so, Thank you. I hope that I can help.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Oh and joost when you talk to the man Mishy (creator/owner of this board), you will find
he is very cool in all respects. EXCEPT don't put a handle in front of Mishy!!
Example: Mr.-your greatness- sir,etc etc.
</font>

Are you implying that sucking up doesn't help! http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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joost
January 31st, 2001, 10:20 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">joost sorry that I didn't reply back to directly! It's a bad habit of mine which I doubt I'll
ever break. &lt;smile&gt;
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Thats ok, as you can see, it's been awhile since I got back as well. Been going nuts at that wonderful place we all call work. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/frown.gif

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Bill
February 1st, 2001, 01:52 AM
joost...Yep on all counts lol. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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