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_freeze_
January 21st, 2005, 03:04 AM
I went to the Members List (http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/memberlist.php?)a minute ago and their are so many unactive users! They just post like 1-2 messages and DITCH! I think their account should be deleted... ;) But after like maybe a warning or sumthing...

lufbra
January 21st, 2005, 03:14 AM
This is a "Help" forum, rather than a "social gathering". Not everyone needs help all the time, they'll come back when they need help. Others stick around cos it can also be fun here, but it's not required that everyone has to post all the time. :)

_freeze_
January 21st, 2005, 03:22 AM
o ok

hypnotizeminds
January 21st, 2005, 03:41 AM
What's a pain is when a user has 1 post, a query for help, and help was given, suggestions for fixes were given, and then that user never posts back to say if any of the ideas were useful or if he/she solved his/her problem at all...

lufbra
January 21st, 2005, 03:52 AM
I agree, and we try our best to ask folks to reply with results, or just to say "thank you", but I guess that's too much trouble for folks to do, to me it shows a lack of respect. :(

Confused_HHF
January 29th, 2005, 06:54 AM
like me i aint in this fourm 2 saty active im here for help, cuz i have computer problems

hypnotizeminds
January 29th, 2005, 04:03 PM
111 computer problems since December (last month), Confused? :laugh:

I try to help as much as I can, especially if I see a thread that is related to a problem I've encountered on my own on more than one occasion, or recently. Like lufbra said, it comes off as disrespectful when a member doesn't post back to let us know if our advice was helpful or not, or even just to say thanks and show some gratitude.

Confused_HHF
January 29th, 2005, 09:47 PM
111 computer problems since December (last month), Confused? :laugh:

I try to help as much as I can, especially if I see a thread that is related to a problem I've encountered on my own on more than one occasion, or recently. Like lufbra said, it comes off as disrespectful when a member doesn't post back to let us know if our advice was helpful or not, or even just to say thanks and show some gratitude.

yup, i keep coming back when i need help

sho-dan
January 29th, 2005, 10:53 PM
:wave:
answering questions for active members is easy,answering questions for inactive members is quite hard,i see a tossup.dont sweat the small things ;)
I do agree w/lufbra/hyp,post back results fix or not fix

Confused_HHF
January 29th, 2005, 11:02 PM
then what am i active or unactive, its hard 2 anwser questions for ME?

sho-dan
January 29th, 2005, 11:14 PM
:wave: you are active,grasshopper ;)

Confused_HHF
January 29th, 2005, 11:17 PM
:eek: oh

da_moma
January 31st, 2005, 09:36 AM
:wave: Please I have a comment to make here.

I do think it is very very rude not to at least say thank you.
But maybe some inactive members are like I was and might still be?
Felt like a very small injured fish in a very large pond when I first found you all.

My life is so very full and busy that I honestly have come in read and went about my routine with out posting. Instead of posting I was lurking and telling others how wonderful you all are.

But I am trying to change that for myself any way. I love it here, just found the other forums here beside the help forum tonight and am planning on staying for a long time to come if :
1) My system holds out.
2) My life will permit me to come in to both read and post.
3) As long as I am welcome here.

I felt bad every time I have been helped and life was too busy for me to post, but I had a few minutes to read. Then there was the time I was still running xp (running 2000 pro now) and it totally crashed on me, took me three days to get back on line and I could not even find the post to tell everyone what happened.

But I totally agree with you that it would be nice to have people post and say thank you.
I am an inactive member who is trying to become active here as it feels like home to me from all the reading that I have been doing here when I could.

To you all I want to say that I am so grateful for everything that you post, the way that you help others, and for having this site.

Sorry to type out a book, your all great people and I look forward to becoming an active member here.

mata
February 1st, 2005, 12:14 AM
:wave:Hi all, often when i try to log in..i just give up because it keeps telling me that im not registered, today i've managed to sneak in at the 4th attempt...
and yes i do have the right password..

anyone can tell me why this happens ? cheers...

amnell71
February 1st, 2005, 01:55 AM
Try this:

http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64161

you might find what you need there. :wave:

mattpg1
February 2nd, 2005, 06:39 AM
Now that I know that so many people think that a thank you is important I'll try to say it more. I've given and gotten help and thought an end post to let the helpers and others know that it worked or the helpee has given up was plenty. I must admit that sometimes I neglect to give that much.

craisin
February 2nd, 2005, 09:05 AM
As I dont want any more probs myself I will plead the fifth Amendmant c/quote

renegade600
February 2nd, 2005, 08:18 PM
My two cents -

I can understand those who do not say thank you. I have been on alot of boards and forums frown on doing this. In fact most frown on this simple act. They feel it takes up too much space (bandwidth) for a simple thank you.

Yea it is nice to know if the help was appreciated but you just have to overlook because there could be valid reasons why it was not given.

nyaxea
February 3rd, 2005, 06:12 AM
Hi all
I believe is a common problem to all fora the question of inactive members...I would not discuss the question of thank you,and furthermore it will be nice to have a feed back
You can be inactive ..or low poster for a lot reasons...I am myself in some other fora with a different scope from this one...one reason is ignorance of the subject...so apart from a "thank you" I can post nothing else .I think is better to be a low or inactive poster than to flood the board with useless msgs just for the sake of posting
regards

hypnotizeminds
February 3rd, 2005, 06:24 AM
Well, anyone who posts "for the sake of posting" needs to find something better to do with their time. Someone who sacrifices the apparently sacred art of keeping a low post-count in order to show a little appreciation for those of us that willingly spend any given amount of our free time to help others with technical issues by posting a simple thank you is, IMO, worthy of a little extra attention the next time they need a hand with something. I don't know about anyone else, but if I am able to help someone, and they come back with a "thanks alot for the help", I remember that. When and if that member comes back with another issue (assuming I think I might be able to help) I will be more than happy to give it my best, knowing that the member will appreciate the help and understand that it is coming from sheer willingness and love of helping others, and not because I, or anyone else, has any obligation to do so whatsoever. I try not to ever exclude anyone from receiving help from me if I know anything about their situation, but I also remember those members that don't show any kind of appreciation, and that makes it hard to want to help them because it's the appreciation and respect that members who come to us for help show that makes me want to help at all. If they don't at least come back to let me know that they solved their problem, or that I was able to help, then it makes me wish I didn't even try, and I wouldn't have if I'd have known they didn't plan on coming back to provide an update for me. I don't know, perhaps that's just my thing, but if nothing else, I hope you see where I am coming from.

lufbra
February 4th, 2005, 05:03 AM
My two cents -

I can understand those who do not say thank you. I have been on alot of boards and forums frown on doing this. In fact most frown on this simple act. They feel it takes up too much space (bandwidth) for a simple thank you.

Yea it is nice to know if the help was appreciated but you just have to overlook because there could be valid reasons why it was not given.

So tell us all, how do folks know if the help given worked??

Just because other forums may "frown" on this, doesn't mean the folks here at CTH have to, each forum is different. and I think if you see some of the signatures that folks have, they ask for a reply be given stating that the help had worked, and this has been a CTH policy all along!! :)

hypnotizeminds
February 4th, 2005, 05:15 AM
So tell us all, how do folks know if the help given worked??

Just because other forums may "frown" on this, doesn't mean the folks here at CTH have to, each forum is different. and I think if you see some of the signatures that folks have, they ask for a reply be given stating that the help had worked, and this has been a CTH policy all along!! :)
lufbra, why are you leaving us!? :cry2:

:laugh: A very good point. It is simply contradicting when we put all this time into helping others and creating a 'database' of problems and fixes for new (and even returning) members to search through so that they may likely be able to find a solution to their problem without even having to take the time to post it *breathe* when a seemingly increasing number of members fail to even respond back to let us know if the 'fix' could even be called that in the particular situation. The only other thing stopping us from ever completing the 'database' is the ever-growing arsenal of new technologies from so many manufacturers and organizations. But, in the same way, the growing technology is really the only thing keeping us alive! Hm, but I am getting a little off the point. I think I need to clear some links out of my signature to make room for a sentence asking for members to please post back with results, besides, according to Spider, the new M$ software may very well replace them all anyways...

Ah.. I'm going to bed. :laugh: :wave:

renegade600
February 4th, 2005, 10:15 AM
So tell us all, how do folks know if the help given worked??

Just because other forums may "frown" on this, doesn't mean the folks here at CTH have to, each forum is different. and I think if you see some of the signatures that folks have, they ask for a reply be given stating that the help had worked, and this has been a CTH policy all along!! :)

Apparently you did not understand what I said. I was just stating the policy of other forums and a possible reason why thanks may not always follow a successful solution here at cth.

However if members are here helping just to get thanked then IMO, then they are only here to get their ego stroked. Thanks are nice but not necessary.

As far as giving the solution when the problem is solved, that would be nice and yes it would help others in the future but again I do not feel it should be necessary.

lufbra
February 5th, 2005, 05:46 AM
Apparently you did not understand what I said

Apparently I read it like it was posted, had you explained your reasons for saying what you had more clearly in your first post, then maybe it would have been understood a lot better.

However if members are here helping just to get thanked then IMO, then they are only here to get their ego stroked. Thanks are nice but not necessary.

I don't know how you can even imagine this!!! CTH is a "free" forum, it was created in the hope that folks would come along and help, and as you can see that along the way, CTH has had many folks helping here.........Getting their ego struck! What's that all about? The folks who help here, help because they want/like to, and if whoever they are helping says "thank you", to me that gives the "helper" the satisfaction of knowing that her/his help has solved the problem. Lets put this another way, you call your computer tech guys for help because you need it. There's a "charge" for doing this but you get the help you needed.........The chances are that at the end of the phone call you say "thanks". Perish this thought, you just "paid" someone to help you, and you say "thanks"! Yet to say "thanks" here at CTH isn't "necesary".....SHEESH!!!

Yea it is nice to know if the help was appreciated but you just have to overlook because there could be valid reasons why it was not given.

Again I'm lost with your assumption here, you say there could be "valid reasons" why it was not given, so the person who's been helping hasn't a clue what the "valid reasons" are.........Ummmmm excuse me, but doesn't that make any help anywhere totally impossible?

You mention about bandwidth, saying that "thanks" posts use up bandwidth. Yet how many times have you seen "helpers" asking in post thread if their help had solved the problem? Why are they asking? Not because of their "ego", simply because they'd like to know in order to maybe use the same help again! :)

zipulrich
February 5th, 2005, 05:56 AM
To add to lufbra's excellent summary, CTH is set up to be searchable. Many, many folks come here every day, search, find a solution, and go on their way - without ever joining. That's great. But if a solution is given and the 'questioner' never states whether the problem was solved,....well, you can see where the problem lies. So please, say THANKS. Or 'That did it.' Or something!!

hypnotizeminds
February 5th, 2005, 06:08 AM
...CTH is set up to be searchable. Many, many folks come here every day, search, find a solution, and go on their way - without ever joining...
Just look at the Who's Online page under Quick Links.

Page 1 - Mostly just the regulars, and a few new guys here and there.

Pages 2 through ??? - ??????? All guests. They come, they go, we are none the wiser. Isn't that proof that everything zip and lufbra are talking about works wonderfully?

zipulrich
February 5th, 2005, 06:19 AM
everything zip and lufbra are talking about works wonderfully?
That's why we're called "know-it-all's". :dizzy:

hypnotizeminds
February 5th, 2005, 06:22 AM
Really? I thought 'Moderator' stood for "show off"... Hm. :rotflmao:

lufbra
February 5th, 2005, 11:59 AM
*wonders if Renegade600 will say "thanks" for the help here*

:p

amnell71
February 5th, 2005, 03:53 PM
...one reason is ignorance of the subject...so apart from a "thank you" I can post nothing else .I think is better to be a low or inactive poster than to flood the board with useless msgs just for the sake of posting
regards

I have to chime in here. A "thank you" or an "it worked/didn't work" is definitely not flooding the board with useless msgs!! These are a very important and vital part of CTH. As it was stated, there are hundreds of people who search these forums looking for information on something. These "it worked/didn't work" posts at the end of a thread, let the reader know if the methods used are worth trying or not or if the methods used will work for them (maybe they are set up the same way as the person being helped in the thread).
Anyway, it's only MHO.

bAdWaYz
February 5th, 2005, 05:30 PM
I have been reading this thread for about two days now and its been very interresting to say the least. Mant good points have been made and I find it nice to see people expressing how they feel . I won't waste time adding in my two cents as I think most of you guys know where I stand on the "saying thanks issue". I will however admit to having a huge ego. My ego is so huge and it needs to be placated at least once ever 3 hours. If you see me on or see that I have helped another user plz feel free to say how awesome I am. Hearing how awesome I am or just what a cool guy I am in general should be mandatory. Having said that if you know me then you know how serious to take this post. Keep all the comments coming guys and thanks for making CTH the best tech help board on the internet!

oink
February 5th, 2005, 06:53 PM
BadWaYz,

Not having met you personally, I can only surmise from your posts what an outstanding person you are. Your posts display your incredible intelligence and your intuitive skills. Your solutions are the most insightful of any I have ever read. Keep up the good work and know that you make all computer techs proud to be called by that name.

nyaxea
February 5th, 2005, 08:14 PM
I have to chime in here. A "thank you" or an "it worked/didn't work" is definitely not flooding the board with useless msgs!! These are a very important and vital part of CTH. As it was stated, there are hundreds of people who search these forums looking for information on something. These "it worked/didn't work" posts at the end of a thread, let the reader know if the methods used are worth trying or not or if the methods used will work for them (maybe they are set up the same way as the person being helped in the thread).
Anyway, it's only MHO.

I never insinuated that a "thks or work/didn't" is a useless msg...What I meant,,and I did mention it ,in some fora you get a flood of msgs just for the sake of posting or reaching a quota...lets say 50 ..so you can get access to certain privileges... it may sound a bit strange to you but it does happen...
However I must emphasise this is not the case in this forum...
regards

Snurfen
February 14th, 2005, 12:03 AM
I never insinuated that a "thks or work/didn't" is a useless msg...What I meant,,and I did mention it ,in some fora you get a flood of msgs just for the sake of posting or reaching a quota...lets say 50 ..so you can get access to certain privileges... it may sound a bit strange to you but it does happen...
However I must emphasise this is not the case in this forum...
regards

Oh come on, we've all succumbed to that once in a while (ok, ok, MOST of us have).

Some like to sit back and read, some like to dive right in. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it just winds people up. Whatever, it's interaction that counts and it reflects everday life in many respects.

I don't htink I've ever met any of you face to face, but I feel deeply indebted to loads of you and proud to be associated with you all. Even when I act like a narrow minded buffoon and you put me straight.

Whenever I can, I offer my gratitude to those who have taken the effort to look at my prob and put some thought into it, even if it's just pointing me to a previous issue that I failed to find on the board.

BTW, bAdWyAz is a pan-galactic cool dude and is cleverer than Steven Fry and Stephen Hawkin's love child.

oink
February 14th, 2005, 12:30 AM
BTW, bAdWyAz is a pan-galactic cool dude and is cleverer than Steven Fry and Stephen Hawkin's love child.

You should have saved it for later. I thought I had his ego satisfied for awhile.