Setting up a home Network

[Grellog]

I have an ethernet cat5 crossover cable connecting a laptop to a PC. I have used the network setup wizard to set up 'a home or small office network'. But I get stuck on the last bit where it wants me to insert a 'Network Setup Disk'. I don' know what this is, but I am given four options:Create one, Use one I have, Use the WinXP disk, just finish the wizard.
1) Laptop doesn't have a floppy drive, and CD-R aren't accepted.
2) I don't know what it is, so I don't know if I have one.
3) I do what it says (click set up a network) and it leads me back to the wizard.
4) Wizard finishes and nothing happens.

I have tried My Network Places>View Workgroup Computers, and on my PC only it comes up, but on my laptop, both computers appear. I then try selecting the PC and an error message pops up:

\\Desktop is not accessable. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.

The network path was not found.


But as I'm the administrator, what do I do? Please help!!

[chris t]

hi grelog i have the same problem as you my newer pc with specs posted below can see my older pc but otherwise no
i also have my own thread so u might want to have a look once in a while in case someone posted there (its right behind urs);)
lets see if we can figure this out :wave:
oh crap teacher coming bye

[Grellog]

Negative Advancement:
I did the thing with the floppy, put it on my disk (PC), put it on CD-RW, put that in Laptop, ran contents to find...it's exactly the same wizard that I was already messing around with!!!:disgust:

Which sucks.

So if there's anyone there (Moderators welcome:wave:) PLEASE help!

Thanks, Grellog

[uripyores]

I have an ethernet cat5 crossover cable connecting a laptop to a PC. I have used the network setup wizard to set up 'a home or small office network'.
4) Wizard finishes and nothing happens.After you 've done this you have to go thro' it all again on the second computer [this applies if you have Win XP ] and click the relevant boxes. Then just click finish,and it should be OK .If you dont have XP, someone else will be able to help you,I expect.:wave:

[Grellog]

I have done that with both computers and both have XP. Once I did this it told me to restart, so I did. What do I do after that to access the Shared Documents folder on each computer?

[Mr Bean]

Hi

Try this (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1152994,00.asp) link and read thoroughly.

It may point you in the right direction.

Cheers

Beanie

[bAdWaYz]

What most places don't tell you is that if you have XP and SP2 there is built in support of peer 2 peer networking in SP2. So an easy way to do what it is you are trying to do would be to first..make sure both computers running XP have SP2 installed. If they do then take these steps "note you will have to do this on both computers".

1.Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Add or Remove Programs.

2.Click Add/Remove Windows Components.

3.In Components, click Networking Services (but do not select its check box), and then click Details.

4.Select the Peer-to-Peer check box, and then click OK.

5.Click Next, and then follow the instructions in the wizard

Once that is done you will need to reboot as Windows just loves to reboot. After the reboot you can run the Network Setup Wizard and you should see options for peer 2 peer network or connecting two computers together. If you run into trouble post back and we can try to help from there.

[Grellog]

4.Select the Peer-to-Peer check box, and then click OK.

Run the Network Setup Wizard and you should see options for peer 2 peer network or connecting two computers together.


I can't see "options for peer2peer" anywhere. This is what happens in the Wizard:
1) Welcome
2) Telling me what to do in preparation
3) Select connection method (internet)
4) Naming computer
5) Naming network
6) File and printer sharing (I select turn on sharing)
7) Review before application.

[Grellog]

I have found a potential problem while looking at the Windows help on Network Walkthrough. It's description of an ethernet cable is:
"links computers via a special cable and a device called a hub"

I simply have the laptop plugged into the desktop. I don't know what a "hub" is. Could this be the reason why their not detecting each other?

[chris t]

Hi

Try this (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1152994,00.asp) link and read thoroughly.

It may point you in the right direction.

Cheers

Beanie
Hi again grelog
I did my networking without a hub (computer plugs in computer) and it works just fiine with 100mb ps :D
I very carefully folowed every step on the website that payneleigh gives and mine now works just fine it shares internet conection and everything
There is only one thing you need and that is your proxy server which you can download for free from http://www.analogx.com/ and i think its called proxyi:michaelan
then all you have to do is remove all internet conections from your slave comp (not the gateway) and check lan settings (make sure one
uncheck the automatic configuration box and manualy set the proxies to i think it was for HTTP 6068 HTTPS 6068 SOCKS 1080 FTP to 21 and i think last was gopher which you can set same as HTTP but check value over in proxyi readme (it says em there)
Oh and by the way i know mine wasnt working because i have 3 Ethernet ports and i was plugging my network in my MAC port lol:rotflmao:
try the link above and make sure you dont use a MAC Enet port:wave:

[Grellog]

:disgust:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1153011,00.asp

I have done everything up till here and when I click "view workgroup computers", the laptop shows laptop, and the PC shows the PC. Great network!:raphael:

The network connections on the PC are all connected (Local Are Connection 2 also shared) and on the laptop, 1394 is connected, Wireless isn't, Local Area Connection is 'limited or no connectivity'.

This is so annOYing!!!

[Grellog]

One other thing, before I go and kill something, when I close the laptop (and so put it on standby) a balloon pops up (on PC) telling me a network cable is unplugged. So there must be something going on between them!

[chris t]

ur geting real close i got limited conectivity just before mine worked
but are u sure you have 1394 is conected because that is not ethernet and what kind of mobo do u have?
asus a8n sli deluxe by any chance?
make sure you are using an ethernet port not a win to mac port! Thats why mine wouldent work! try it using local area conection (which shouuld be your primary enet port)
i need to know ur internet concetion as well
because by the sounds of it its pluged into local area con. is there another option for you to plug it in? maybe USB? usb works great its 10mb ps and thast fat enough to handle broadband cable

[Grellog]

I have plugged the cale into two ethernet sockets (they have a picture of two computers linked up)
I have DSL Broadband
Also, I'm not bothered about getting internet on my laptop: I only want to bring files from my PC onto my laptop.

[uripyores]

Also, I'm not bothered about getting internet on my laptop: I only want to bring files from my PC onto my laptop.If you not bothered about getting internet usage on the laptop; you could consider getting one of those USB mass storage devices. You can put your stuff on 'em with the PC and then plug it into the laptop to access it all.

[Grellog]

But I don't want to do that. It costs too much money and anyway I'm positive my setup should work. How many millions of computers are networked? And mine can't even detect each other!

There's been another negative advancement: The PC can detect itself and the laptop can't detect anything. Grrrrreat.:upset:

[Grellog]

Is a hub absolutely necessarry? Microsoft seem to make it very clear that the only possible way to have a wired network is via a hub. But I just want a 2 computer network, so I hardly think 8 empty sockets is worth £30.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/308007?#3

is the incessant hub-eriser.:disgust:

[chris t]

Grelog make sure that your computers use the same type of protocol to comunicate (TCP\IP) being the easiest. Check them out and make sure you enable NetBIOS you should find it by rightclicking in your network neighborhood/Network Places and hitting properties.
If TCP\IP is not there add it and then also hit properties on it and enable NetBIOS.
Try that and post back if you did it and your network still dosent work and the flash drive (USB Mass Storage) is a good thing to have even if you manage to kick off your network.

[Grellog]

possible advancement:

In Network Connections>advanced>optional network components, I went to details on 'Networking Services' and found 'Simple TCP/IP Services' unchecked. So I've now installed that on both comps so I might be getting somewhere.

[Grellog]

My laptop can see both comps!! PC only itself.

[Grellog]

On Laptop: When I right click my PC icon and select Properties, a message appears - The server Grellog does not accept remote requests.

How can I enable 'Remote Requests' on the PC?

[Grellog]

I'M SO CLOSE!!!!

I now have both comps visable on the PC, but the same message comes up telling me I don't have permission to access the opposite comp.

HELP!!!:eek:

[Grellog]

Now I can't even access MSHOME on the laptop. :raphael:(groan)

[Grellog]

On PC: When I right click the laptop icon and select properties, I'm told 'the server Laptop could not be found on the network'

[uripyores]

Check that you've followed the instructions in the link Payneleigh gives earlier and if your computers are both using XP you dont need to run a setup disk at the end.Make sure you have unique names for each computer.Also make sure the network/workgroup has the same name on both. [You do not HAVE TO have a hub.You can use a direct cable from one to the other]When setting up the connection you should enable file sharing etc.:thumbsup:

[Grellog]

Bad news: I cna now see both comps on the laptop, and nothing on the PC.

[uripyores]

Bad news: I cna now see both comps on the laptop, and nothing on the PC.When you say this, what exactly do you mean?

[Grellog]

Uh Oh

When I right clich the laptop icon (on my laptop) and go to properties, it says 'Type: Windows Professional'





Errm...I have XP Home... :(

[Grellog]

When you say this, what exactly do you mean?

in 'View work group computers'

On Laptop: Both computers come up.

On PC: Nothing comes up


Except now the PC registers (on the PC)

[Grellog]

I have new equipment.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/grellog/1fb67585.bmp
It's not obvious, but the reds are routers, greens computers, and blues ethernet cables.


The two routers are both DrayTek Vigor2600 ADSL.
Everything is linked with ethernet cables.
Again, I don't want internet on the laptop, but I do on the PC (which I already do)

[RussS]

I think the first thing to remember - when linking 2 PCs together without a switch or a hub you will need to use a 'crossover' cable. If you do not use one then you will certainly get the 'network cable is disconnected' message.

[chris t]

dude im sure something must be wrong with your connections
mine wasnt working cuz i was using fron enet port
keep trying
:wave: