View Full Version : Pope John Paul ll has died.
Nick Grana
April 2nd, 2005, 09:10 PM
Hail Mary, full of grace.
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
sho-dan
April 2nd, 2005, 09:12 PM
at peace now,good bye
DJoe
April 2nd, 2005, 09:44 PM
I hate to say this but, I saw him as just another pope and frankly heres not god and its inpossible to speak for god. If I were pope I'd quit when I got sick and tired of popeing and so what if I looked like a dimon.
uripyores
April 2nd, 2005, 10:21 PM
He was a good man. [no need to say more than that] :sad:
Acrobaze
April 2nd, 2005, 10:22 PM
The truth is not in the apprences. This man was courageous. Peace with
him, now.
joetd
April 2nd, 2005, 10:33 PM
god bless you old dude, and may you rest in peace ...
oink
April 2nd, 2005, 10:52 PM
I'm not Catholic, but I thought he was a good man and a good Pope. Had all of his predecessors been like him, we would probably all still be Catholic. With my limited knowledge of scripture, I do see basis for the Pope being earthly head of the Christian Church. I'm sure he is in glory now.
Nick Grana
April 2nd, 2005, 11:12 PM
I hate to say this but, I saw him as just another pope and frankly heres not god and its inpossible to speak for god. If I were pope I'd quit when I got sick and tired of popeing and so what if I looked like a dimon.
That definitely says it all so eloquently. Now if you could only structure a decent sentence, your words may actually carry some weight if you could spell them.:(
You have a good day now. Matter of fact, have a great life.:wave:
dammit
April 2nd, 2005, 11:20 PM
I am in no way religious in any faith, in fact I think religion has caused more deaths in this world than anything else...and most conflicts... but having said that.. I think he was a good man. R.I.P.
renegade600
April 2nd, 2005, 11:34 PM
whether or not you think he was gods ambassador on earth, he was still a good man who did make a difference in the lives of others. He will be missed by millions. May he now rest in peace.
mickb
April 3rd, 2005, 12:44 AM
I was brought up a catholic but became an atheist, but John Paul was special
And Muslims, Buddhists, Protestants alike were in awe of the man and give their best wishes.
This man inspired those who would bring an end to communism, apartheid etc.
How many politicians have visited 129 countries to see their voters.
John Paul Has visited his flock in 129 countries This is 128 more than previous pontiffs.
My best memory is the scene at the window where John Paul with the help of children tries to release doves and to their delight the doves will not leave the pontiff and his guests.
''Just another Pope''
What planet is he on.
Vercades
April 3rd, 2005, 01:58 AM
R.i.p.
Nick Grana
April 3rd, 2005, 02:33 AM
Only some televangelists, like Benny Hinn, seem to be able to communicate with God. They say God asks for money from you so the healing process can begin.
B/S!! Faith may help heal but Benny Hinn, and the other idiots with his conceived powers of God, couldn't heal a hemorrhoid with a case of Preparation H.
The Pope takes his cues from Jesus Christ, who, like John Paul, had been criticized for his teachings and his steadfastness to the truth. Like many others I know, I believe he will come to be known as John Paul the Great, and that he eventually will be canonized. But even that wouldn't matter--to him, or to us. What matters was his unwavering adherence to the Word of God, and his deep communion with Him.
Has religion caused the most wars and death?
It is not religion per se that perpetrates violence, but a certain mindset that seeks to use an ideology or a religious justification to control people's thinking and restrain the most fundamental freedoms.
Peace to all.
degsy
April 3rd, 2005, 03:36 AM
I'm not Catholic, but I thought he was a good man and a good Pope. Had all of his predecessors been like him, we would probably all still be Catholic. With my limited knowledge of scripture, I do see basis for the Pope being earthly head of the Christian Church. I'm sure he is in glory now.
Sorry to quote this post. It's just about a BBC report that I just watched about Contraception.
JP was dead against it and it's maybe cost millions of lives in Africa.
"They" suggest that if he wasn't stuck in his ways then alot more could have been done. Maybe the next will.
Not my thoughts. Just something I saw on TV :)
Nick Grana
April 3rd, 2005, 03:51 PM
degsy, you are right about that to a certain extent. Since the Pope was not a God, he made errors just like the rest of us. But it all has something to do with the teachings of the Bible.
Concerned that many Catholics have strayed from traditional teachings, he has waged an unflagging battle against abortion, contraception, pre-marital sex, divorce, homosexuality and the breakdown of traditional family values.
As for contraceptives, Protestants are divided on this issue, as well as many others.
The 'rhythm method' was outdated according to many people.
To each, their own. 'JP' did try hard for all of us.
This said already but worth repeating:
A tireless traveler who had clocked up some 775,000 miles in 104 foreign trips to some 130 countries, the Pope was a familiar figure across the globe. He had drawn crowds of up to four million people. Who else can say that?
Have a great day!!!:michaelan
degsy
April 3rd, 2005, 04:33 PM
U2?
TJolly
April 3rd, 2005, 06:35 PM
Nice of you to post with regard to this sad occasion Darth.
I am not a Catholic but I admired John Paul II for his activities to help with world peace and his attempts to bring all religions together.
He was a good man, may he now R.I.P.
Nick Grana
April 3rd, 2005, 08:35 PM
U2?
Beeeeeeeep. Wrong. Although they did have about 160,000 at a couple shows.;)
Manila in January 1995, 5 million people came to Pope's open-air Mass.
July, 2002, over 10 million people gathered along the streets of Mexico City in one day to see the Holy Father.
I can't even imagine that in my little mind. :eek:
Thanks, TJolly. I've enjoyed the discussions from everyone.
Well, maybe not everyone....maybe just one was a little wacky. To each....
It's going to interesting to know what nationality the next Pope will be.
Pope John Paul ll was first non-Italian Pope in 455 years. Amazing.
Good site to see how the next Pope is brought in:
http://people.howstuffworks.com/papacy3.htm
I can hardly believe it, but then again, I can. Already opening on-line betting as to whom will be chosen.
http://www.readabet.com/index.php/other/article/7237 among others.:dizzy:
You know what that's called in America? Normal.:disgust:
Vercades
April 4th, 2005, 12:14 AM
Quote from a priest on another forum I participate on.
As a formal Anglican Priest, I often butted heads with amany Catholic Priests (good friendly debate....we never resorted to fist throwing) in terms of dogma, theology, piety, etc
I've prayed next to the Sisters of Calcutta (Mother Theresa's convent) at the pentagon, and I held debates between the Greek Church and the ROman Catholic Church.
However, this is the first time I am truly saddened over the death of someone "famous" that I have never met.
I feel almost as if a piece of me is missing. As a formal priest (even through not roman catholic), I feel it big time. Pope John Paul not only transcended the borders of religion piety but he also made a mark in the world as a true humanitarian.
He apologized to the Jews for years of wrong doing
He apologized to the Anglican and Protestant Church and asked for a time of unification (which was the first Pope ever to do so)
He was the first well-known person to take a baby with aids and hug and kiss him (this was in the 80's when no one would even be near a baby with AIDs much less kiss them).
He visited the man in prison who tried to kill him to forgive him. They later became good friends.
He visited Castro and had the guts to tell him that communism was supressing his people's outcry to religious practice...then criticize america for the embargo against Cuba
He went to the wailing wall and talked to Arafat and Rabin in the 90's for hopes of Muslim/Jewish unification.
He was truly a Pope without greed, corruption or hunger of power. He was one of the few Popes who served not only Christ but his people in a pious way.
I feel horrible for the next Pope. He has some MAJOR shoes to fill. Pope John Paul II, you are truly a rolemodel and heaven is truly blessed with such an addition
The Dude
April 6th, 2005, 05:07 PM
You can watch the Pope 24/7!!!!!
http://eyenet.wm.llnwd.net/eyenet_livenews1
I went here and people were standing in a church,sometimes the camera was pointed on him,sometimes not..........
I dunno why they just dont bury him!!! The poor guy
Nick Grana
April 6th, 2005, 05:43 PM
I dunno why they just dont bury him!!!
‘We want to greet him one last time’
It's tradition at it's finest. But not to worry, Dude.
As well as hundreds of world leaders, including George W Bush and Tony Blair, Catholics from the Americas to Asia will make their way to the Vatican for the funeral, which is expected to take place later this week.:fyi:
amnell71
April 6th, 2005, 05:58 PM
I am in no way religious in any faith, in fact I think religion has caused more deaths in this world than anything else...and most conflicts... but having said that.. I think he was a good man. R.I.P.
You and I are alike in more ways than one. (scary, actually) ;)
He was truly a Pope without greed, corruption or hunger of power. He was one of the few Popes who served not only Christ but his people in a pious way.
I feel horrible for the next Pope. He has some MAJOR shoes to fill. Pope John Paul II, you are truly a rolemodel and heaven is truly blessed with such an addition
I am not religious by any stretch of the imagination, but I second these sentiments. He truly was a great man and a wonderful leader. The next Pope will have to try very hard to achieve even half of what this man accomplished!