Gotta love our strict US border patrol...

[hypnotizeminds]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/chain_saw_border;_ylt=

Not to post "negative" news, but this irritated me. I tried to get into Canada to do some gambling and was given more trouble before being allowed in than this guy was, and the most dangerous thing I had in my posession was the ink pen I used to sign papers at the border... :disgust:

"At a time when the United States is tightening its borders, how could a man toting what appeared to be a bloody chain saw be allowed into the country?"

[renegade600]

I saw that article yesterday, in all fairness, What laws did he break at the time he crossed the border. He was not wanted for anything at the time. They could not legally do any type of search including testing the red liquid on him without cause. If they held him without cause, any evidence gathered during that time would be thrown out of any US court. It could have been a lawsuit waiting to happen. They held him for two hours trying to find a legal reason to keep him in custody.

[hypnotizeminds]

"On the same day Despres crossed the border, he was due in a Canadian court to be sentenced on charges he assaulted and threatened to kill Fulton's son-in-law, Frederick Mowat, last August."

This is not enough to keep him from crossing the border?

[renegade600]

not by american authorities. whose to say he would not return later that day for court. Whats a court date? Think about it, its usually not enough to warrant sending the border patrol an alert. What do you want to do, send the border patrol an alert on everyone in the us and canada who has a court date?

[hypnotizeminds]

I definitely don't think they should be allowed to flee the country, that's for sure.

[kage]

Okay, I don't think being late for a court date alone is warrant enough for them to keep him from crossing. Being a 'person of interest' isn't either, nor that he had some rather suspicious objects on his person. But if you take all of this into account, I think that is reason enough to keep him from crossing the border. Though what do I know, he looks like a nice enough guy, lol.

[uripyores]

You have some strange laws to put up with. We got em here too.

[renegade600]

denying access who can legally cross the border at the time because he looks suspicious is not a reason. Its easy to judge after the fact but with as lawsuit crazy people are these days, it could just as easy be a setup.

If we start denying access because of how someone dresses, acts, looks when there is no cause then that would be wrong and can lead to discrimination and other problems.

[hypnotizeminds]

You just have to ask is it worth it? People are dead because this guy was let into this country...

If someone looks crazy, is due in court for assaults and death threats, and has a sword and a potentially bloody chainsaw in their vehicle, they should NOT be allowed into this country. If you are a whackjob and you are trying to enter America and you don't even have enough common sense to try and not look suspicious, I say stay in your own damn country. We have enough loonies here as it is. :dizzy:

[smurfy]

People are dead because this guy was let into this country.
Huh?
He (allegedly) killed people in Canada and fled HOME to Massachusetts.
Despres could not be detained because he is a naturalized U.S. citizen...The bulletin caught the eye of a Quincy police dispatcher because it gave the suspect's Massachusetts driver's license number, missing a character. The dispatcher plugged in numbers and letters until she found a last known address for Despres in Mattapoisett. She alerted police in that town, and an officer quickly spotted Despres.

I'd say people are dead in Canada because he was let into their country.

The murders hadn't been discovered when he crossed back over, all he had was an assault and threat to kill charge.

No mention made in any story I could find on whether he had any criminal record in USA.

[hypnotizeminds]

Whoops, I got the settings backwards. :D

Besides the point anyways, my problem is that he has a history of violent behavior and should be contained, especially when his actions are so suspicious. I don't mean that he should stay anywhere specific, just that he should have been locked up before this happened, but I guess you can't really ask the anyone to take action before it's too late.