View Full Version : Water car true of false???
Vercades
June 16th, 2005, 03:24 AM
I've heard rumors of some car manufactures developing a water car or a system to install in car that lets them run it on normal tap water. I've done a quick google search and came up with this. Just interested if anyone has seen this or heard some truths to this enigma.
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/carplans_doc.htm
what I found.
Tristansdaz
June 16th, 2005, 03:47 AM
Not true. There is an inventor in Reno, NV that has a formula to allow water to be added to diesel and gasoline. The public bus system tested it for quite a while. I think the product is called G55 or something like that. It's not available to the public yet that I'm aware of.
Vercades
June 16th, 2005, 03:58 AM
Hmm yeah I've heard of the diluted diesel fuel and the veggie van idea. I've just heard lotsa rumors of this car being developed but, they aren't allowing the plans to be at use because of how it would cripple the oil industry, which the oil idustry is on it's way of ending in 2010.
Nick Grana
June 16th, 2005, 01:54 PM
People have had thoughts of it being available for a long time but the oil companies buy the rights. Another famous rumor.
So they make a motor that uses tap water but find out more pure water is necessary for smoother running. Now they'll make bottled water only option.
Of course bottled water is about $150/gal, we'd be sc-rew-ed, blued, and tatooed.:eek:
I like Doc's "Back to the Future" garbage eater. Plenty of that around.:michaelan
Vercades
June 16th, 2005, 04:06 PM
There is hydrogen cars, I heard from another forum. They've been existence for awhile. Engineers are trying to make hydrogen fuel cells that use less platinum and cost less. It'll probably be in about 10-15 years.
Vercades
June 16th, 2005, 06:27 PM
http://www.bmwzentrum.com/exhibits/hydrogen_car.asp
Snurfen
June 16th, 2005, 10:40 PM
We did the veggie diesel thing a few months back (quite a few cars in this part of the world do use it), so no point rehashing it again.
Water was injected into the carbs and turbos of Formula 1 racing cars a few years ago, it got banned as they went like holy stink! Also, it is well known in engineering circles that petrol engines gain power as relative humidity rises, up to a point. This has been shown in race cars posting faster lap times when the humidity rises.
The bmw site is excellent, thanks for the link.
Tristansdaz
June 17th, 2005, 03:34 AM
The water injection has been used for a long time. I remember it being primarily used in vehicles that needed more octane because of higher compression. The water didn't physically increase the octane but cooled the charge a little bit and helped reduce the 'pinging' associated with high compression and low octane fuel. Boy, it really reduces the carbon build up on the valves and pistons too!
The "water car" has been around for a long time. I have seen ads for them dating back into the 30's but nobody ever got a system that would hold up to scrutiny. Every one that I'm aware of has been proven to be a scam.
Water in and of itself is non-combustible. The hydrogen and oxygen molecules are combustible if broken down but nobody that I'm aware of has been able to do so yet.
Sorry to get on a bit of a soapbox but I've been working on, restoring and generally been around cars as long as I can remember.
enat66
June 17th, 2005, 05:50 AM
Well here is what they teach you in present day high school chemistry:
Water is hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen is highly flamable (combustible). One can break down water into hydrogen and oxygen (hydrolysis of water) by running an electric current through water. This would create the hydrogen to power the car, the problem is having the car run fast enough, storing the hydrogen, and finding a way that doesn't require one to draw electricity from coal/oil power plants to make the hydrogen.
Or atleast that is how I remember the lesson.