Upgrading graphics card

gzibocod · #1 October 9th, 2005, 10:31 PM

Hi,

I have a HP pavilion 753n computer with a Intel Extreme Graphics card. How can I replace it with a Nvidia GeForce FX 5500? My computer info is as follows:

file:///A:/Computerinfo.txt

bAdWaYz · #2 October 9th, 2005, 11:34 PM

Hi gzibocod and welcome to CTH,

That link you posted won't work because the .txt file itself isn't uploaded to CTH or hosted linve on the internet. As far as an upgrade goes. What you have now is onboard graphics meaning its built into the motherboard. That graphics card that you ased about the GGorce FX 5500 is an AGP card so you could just install it into your AGP slot and disable the onboard graphics from the BIOS, however I believe the GForce card is a 8x AGP card so you would need to make sure your AGP slot supports 8x AGP graphics cards.

gzibocod · #3 October 10th, 2005, 01:09 AM

Could I also buy an GeForce FX 5500 for a PCI slot that I have empty? And I was just woundering... how do you remove the empty PCI slots metal protector/guard??

**zipulrich** · #4 October 10th, 2005, 01:51 AM

Best I can figure, that 753n has a 4X AGP slot.

Take the screw out of the top of the backplane and remove it in order to add an AGP or PCI card.

gzibocod · #5 October 10th, 2005, 02:09 AM

Just wondering...

The HP computer had a Intel Extreme Graphics. The video adapter is a 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV graphics controller (64MB). When I install the GeForce FX 5500 will the Intel Extreme Graphics cause the new GeForce to not work?? How do I deactivate the Intel Extreme Graphics?? Because Iam going to put the GeForce in the PCI slot.

**zipulrich** · #6 October 10th, 2005, 02:14 AM

Sometimes, just installing a PCI card will disable the on-board graphics. Often, tho, you'll disable the graphics in the BIOS/Setup program.

bAdWaYz · #7 October 10th, 2005, 02:17 AM

You could go with something like this..

http://www.imagestore.us/product.asp...X5500%2D128PCI

This will still not compare to an AGP card and you are really kinda stuck with what you have in that even AGP is getting phased out slowly and PCIe or PCI express seems to be where all graphics cards are heading. If that were my computer I would just put the best AGP card I could find in it and hope it gets me by untill such a time as you can get a new rig with PCIe.

gzibocod · #8 October 10th, 2005, 02:47 AM

How much power in Watts do you need for a GeForce FX 5500? How can I figure out how much watts my computer uses?

gzibocod · #9 October 10th, 2005, 11:54 PM

Since my HP pavilion 753n has a 4X AGP slot can I still insert a GeFoce 6200 AGP 8X ???

bAdWaYz · #10 October 11th, 2005, 04:41 AM

First I thought you were looking at the 5500 not the 6200? Next, no you can't use a 8x card in a 4x slot. You might at the very best get luck and the voltages line up just right to allow the card to run but it would most likely even then run as a 4x card. I don't think anyone here would advise you do that however.

oracle128 · #11 October 11th, 2005, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by badwayz

You might at the very best get luck and the voltages line up just right to allow the card to run but it would most likely even then run as a 4x card. I don't think anyone here would advise you do that however.

Information here. They use the same voltage, and you can safely place an 8x AGP card in a 4x slot. However, it only has a small chance of working at all, and even then it will only be at AGP x4 speed. I have myself placed an 8x card in a 4x slot; the result was it would work fine for Windows/2D applications, but as soon as any 3D work was required, the PC would freeze.

bAdWaYz · #12 October 12th, 2005, 05:36 AM

Yeah so you can "safely" place the card in the slot, but what good does that do if its unstable at best? The bottom line is its a bad idea same voltage or not.

oracle128 · #13 October 12th, 2005, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by badways

but what good does that do if its unstable at best?

Absolutely none. But it's just a little piece of FYI. And remember, in the geek world, we thrive not on the "why?" but on the "how?".

bAdWaYz · #14 October 13th, 2005, 02:01 AM

Well its a good thing I didn't say "why" or "how" but rather "what". As in what is the point. Sure you can drive a car with you feet but its not a good idwa. Our goal here at CTH is to provide the best advice based on the posters needs. It is not however to be pedantic for the sake of an ego boost. We all know you are good so focus on why you are here rather then what others post.

oracle128 · #15 October 13th, 2005, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by badwayz

Our goal here at CTH is to provide the best advice based on the posters needs.

Is it not also the goal of CTH to teach others? Is that not what I am doing? Providing what may be useful, relevant information? Let's say for example one had a video problem, but they could only test it by replacing their graphics card. The only card they have is an 8x AGP card, but there motherboard only runs at 4x AGP. With the extra information I have provided, could that not have helped someone out by giving them the option of at least trying it? Sure, maybe it doesn't apply directly to the current situation at this time, but it is some food for thought for all the viewers of this thread.

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Originally Posted by badwayz

It is not however to be pedantic for the sake of an ego boost.

I'm sorry if it comes off that way. I saw an opportunity to teach something that I thought was at least partially relevent, and I took it. And maybe even you learnt something from it? God knows, I've learnt a lot from this and other forums, even if it's been information posted that may not have been directly relevant.

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Originally Posted by gzibocod

Could I also buy an GeForce FX 5500 for a PCI slot that I have empty?

The FX 5500 is available in a PCI slot, but I would recommend finding a 2x/4x AGP card instead, unless you were particularly after the FX 5500. NewEgg has a list of 2x/4x compatible graphics cards, and it seems the GeForce MX 4000, or the Radeon 9000 are pretty much the best you're going to get with that slot. The problem with brand name computers is your pretty limited with your hardware options; you could upgrade your motherboard to give you more choice, but then your PC will effectively no longer be an HP, and any software/recovery discs that came with it will refuse to work.