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Old December 30th, 2018, 11:41 PM
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Windows Not Letting Me Write

I had to do the nasty to my decade aged, last surviving personal computing device.... I had to format it and reload Windows 10 fresh. Painful, I know. Just, the October updates really did a number on my OS badly.

I found out I can not easily edit my own files. Here is how it started:

Anyway, I just reinstalled Thunderbird. Now I have my original profile backed up to put in all my account info, prefs, and addons. The profile names were different, of course. I backed up the new profile (let us call it new.default) and copied/overwritten the contents of old.default. I opened Thunderbird. All accounts there. Settings seem right. All emails and folders present into their respective accounts in my personal files. Addons present. The problem i ran into, downloading new emails. All accounts give me the same error: Unable to write the email to the mailbox. Make sure the file system allows you write privileges, and you have enough disk space to copy the mailbox.

Yes, I do believe 100G is enough for a few texted emails.
I go to where my email accounts are, c:\personal\mail\, right clicked to check permissions on the three system accounts: EVERYONE, SYSTEM, Administrators (DESKTOP\Administrators), and all are checked for "allow" (except 'special permissions').
Nothing is read-only that I can see looking at attributes.
I can move emails from one folder to another, but still can not write new emails.
I took an account that had no subfolders, moved emails out, closed the client, deleted that account's inbox and inbox.msf, started the client, still can not write new emails.

Then I ended up finding out I can copy/paste files in my personal folders to other locations, but I can not edit my spreadsheets, documents, etc. I am blocked from editing files in the temp folders and any place in the system. I tried my backups on my externals, and I can edit those same files in e:\personal where I can not in c:\personal.

I forcefully removed OneDrive which has caused issues in the past when I upgraded from W8 to W10 years back.
I ran a few chkdsk /f/r with no problems found.

When I reloaded Windows I had it not keep personal files (which are in the locations Microsoft thinks people keeps things, like /documents, /pictures, etc. No no, I keep my personal files and software in separate folders, and Windows kept them on the reset. Yet, I can not easily modified my own files in those folders or mine, or even in other Windows folders like I normally used to.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.
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Old December 31st, 2018, 05:33 PM
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Any thoughts?
Upgrade your hardware. 10 year old hardware was not designed for W10. Do you have W10 specific drivers for all your hardware?

I don't use T-Bird so cannot help you there. Do you get errors when trying to edit your spreadsheets and documents? What do the errors say? Can you create new spreadsheets and docs and edit them okay?

For future reference, when using the /r switch with chkdsk, you don't need /f. If you run chkdsk /? you will see under /r that /f is "implied". That means /r does everything /f does already. It does not hurt to include the /f in your syntax - it is just ignored.
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Old December 31st, 2018, 06:28 PM
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POP or IMAP mail? Could be your mail settings with your ISP:

Try changing to ;

SSL/TLS and to Normal password then reboot the computer

Double check with your ISP on the email settings.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...ceive-messages

Also disable any malware/spyware programs and see if that fixes it.

Also a anti-virus program scanning emails can cause this problem.
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Old December 31st, 2018, 07:58 PM
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Except it is not just his email. He said he cannot edit his spreadsheets, documents, files in the temp folders and any place in the system. So it seems it is not about what type email protocol he's using.
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Old December 31st, 2018, 08:09 PM
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I wonder if it has anything to do with taking ownership of the files.
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Old December 31st, 2018, 08:30 PM
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That's why I wondered if they could create new spreadsheets and docs and edit them okay.
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Old December 31st, 2018, 10:04 PM
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I would run through the "take ownership" process just to make sure even though you checked permissions

https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/t...-file-explorer
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Old December 31st, 2018, 10:33 PM
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Make sure that the owner of the files name is the same one you used before you formatted Win 10.
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Old January 1st, 2019, 08:13 PM
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I manged to successfully format the drive by booting into recovery mode and deleting the drive. Everything is working normally. My guess, a conflict with what Windows kept previously. But again, when I picked "delete everything" over "keep personal files," it still kept my personal files which are all directories not through Windows's defaults. Along with that, it looked like it kept other user files. So, "delete everything" does not work as intended?

This time I was able to get myself to boot into troubleshooting mode and select "clean drive." I read that if I hold SHIFT while clicking RESTART from START MENU, it took me into troubleshooting mode (who knew, not me) and I go into those options to this time pick one to work for me, now all permissions seem normal again.

I got to image C in this link which is what i am referring to.
https://www.techrepublic.com/article...ything-option/

So far, after copying over my personal files, I can write normally again.
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Old January 1st, 2019, 08:58 PM
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My guess, a conflict with what Windows kept previously.
My guess goes along with what you said in your opening post,
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The profile names were different, of course.
My guess is that caused Windows, perhaps as a security measure, to block you from making unauthorized changes to those files since Windows had no way of knowing you, in this installation, was the same you from the previous installation.

Anyway, I am glad you got it going again.
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Old January 1st, 2019, 11:10 PM
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Glad you figured it out.
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Old April 3rd, 2019, 02:41 PM
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on the first screen, are you showing as connected to a network? sometimes screen doesn't show if you aren't
Did you try a restart?

lets see if start up repair fixes it
on the 1st screen where you hit space bar, click the power button
while holding the shift key down, click the restart option
this loads advanced start up
choose troubleshoot
choose advanced
choose start up repair - this will scan PC and maybe fix this - will ask for logon info
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Old April 4th, 2019, 05:38 PM
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on the first screen, are you showing as connected to a network? sometimes screen doesn't show if you aren't
Did you try a restart?

lets see if start up repair fixes it
on the 1st screen where you hit space bar, click the power button
while holding the shift key down, click the restart option
this loads advanced start up
choose troubleshoot
choose advanced
choose start up repair - this will scan PC and maybe fix this - will ask for logon info
while holding the shift key down, click the restart option
this loads advanced start up
choose troubleshoot






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Old April 4th, 2019, 05:42 PM
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If you read post 9 in this thread you will see that the problem was solved in January.
Remove those links at the bottom of your posts or take a hike.

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