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Old July 7th, 2018, 03:29 AM
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Some Opinions on a Desktop

I need to obtain a new unit since I am on my last one and it is having hardware issues. Want to use my company discounts but having a hard time trying to think what be the best option for me. I am looking for inexpensive but powerful.

> I mainly do productivity (Firefox, OpenOffice, Windows utilities).
> Most of my games are local games, Windows/DOS most all pre 2010, and Nintendo emulators. I do need to be able to play the latest of the LEGO games, like LEGO Batman 3, LEGO Marvel Heroes, the upcoming DC Villains and Fallout 3 and 4. The very, very few online games (I prefer most my games not relying on the Internet to play) like Star Trek Online, Atlantica Online. Looking to try others, time permitting.
> Watching movies. I have done some video editing before but if my older computers from 2005 could do it, so would anything newer.
> The heaviest things lately that I run (or was on my last desktop that died last month) was Second Life via Firestorm viewer and VirtualBox.
> Need to use multiple monitors.

These are the choices I have been looking at from Dell:

Inspiron Gaming Desktop 5680
PROCESSOR - Intel® Core i3 8100 (4-Core/4-Thread, 6MB Cache, 3.6GHz )
MEMORY - 8GB, DDR4, 2400MHz; up to 32GB
DRIVE - 1TB 7200RPM 6Gb/s drive
GRAPHICS - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 with 2GB GDDR5 (or a GTX 1060)
POWER - 460W with Air Cooling, Polar Blue LED lighting

Inspiron Gaming Desktop 5675
PROCESSOR - 7th Generation AMD A10-9700 Quad-Core APU with Radeon R7 Graphics
or
PROCESSOR - AMD Ryzen 5 1400 Processor (4C/8T, 10MB Cache, 3.4 GHz Precision Boost)
MEMORY - 8GB, 2400MHz, DDR4; up to 32GB
DRIVE - 1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive
GRAPHICS - AMD Radeon RX 560 with 2GB GDDR5

Inspiron Desktop 3670
PROCESSOR - 8th Generation Intel Core i5-8400 processor (9MB Cache, up to 4.0 GHz)
MEMORY - 8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz; up to 32GB
DRIVE - 3.5" 1TB 7200 rpm Hard Drive
GRAPHICS - NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 with 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Memory
POWER - APFC Chassis with 290W PSU (Silver front BZL)

Opinions??

Thanks.
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Old July 7th, 2018, 03:55 AM
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1. The I5-8400 will outperform the AMD Ryzen 5 1400
  • Clockspeed (i5)2.8Ghz vs (AMD)3.2Ghz
  • Turbo Speed up to 4GHz vs 3.4Ghz
  • #of Physical Cores 6 vs 4(2 logical cores per physical)
All 3 have a 1TB Hard Drive, go with a SSD for the operating system, will be much faster, then a second drive for storage.

The AMD RX 560 will outperform the GT 1030

Comparison

If you are going to buy a off the shelf system then you cannot pick and choose. Although DELL is a good computer there are several that will out perform them. Obviously budget is a concern.

Configure the Dell XPS

Is you intention to buy off the shelf or can you build your own???
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Old July 7th, 2018, 05:15 AM
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Because I have to finance (can not afford one lump sum) and I can get employee discounts, I am doing it through the Dell website for members. Even though I am financing, I am staying under $600 and most options I can configure either a graphics card or processor. Very few are customizable.
None of those I listed I can customize for a SSD.

If I had the time and funds, I build my own system again. But with my last desktop dyling a month ago (motherboard not taking power) and now this laptop experiencing its first bad sectors to add to its slowness, I am trying to get something budgetable, but fast/powerful for what I want it to do.

In truth, not that it may matter, but I never had an AMD processor before.

My current monitors (one has hundreds of dead pixels) are both VGAs and they have been connected to my old desktop via a DMI dual VGA adapter on that old Nvidia card. Yes, I need new monitors and external drives too, but priorities first. At least my current monitors still work for now.

I was factoring the Inspiron Desktop 3670 but from what i was reading, was thinking for the types of games I have if one of the gaming PCs would work. I have been running things find on my other systems for years though until they started slowing down and dying as time goes on, something that does not affect me personally.
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Old July 7th, 2018, 01:39 PM
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I took a gaming PC and customized it with I5-8400 and I5-8400K, same RAM, better video (4G over 2G), and better WIFI (by default even though I be wired in), and it came to $200 more than the Inspirion 3670 for slightly faster speeds to a difference I will not see what I will do. I changed it to match the processor and graphics and it was still more expensive than the 3670. Only difference was a gaming mouse, better WIFI, and a power supply in the 400s over the 200s.
Think to get myself up and running for the next year is the 3670.
Your thoughts still helped me think on my choices, Murf, so thanks.
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Old July 8th, 2018, 01:14 AM
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I am looking at this card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 - 2 GB GDDR5 - PCIe 3.0 x16 - DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort

Online sites, even NVIDIA, are all giving me contact info. This is why I HATE how everything these days is online. No physical contact..... and this card is not in any local store for me to see.

I am having a problem looking at the images of the card online to determine if the HDMI and DVI are regular or mini. I have two VGA monitors and need to find the correct adapters for this card.

Any fresh eyes please?
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Old July 8th, 2018, 02:38 AM
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The Video ports are Standard DVI, and Standard HDMI Ports.


How many monitors are you connecting to this Video Card?


If your going to use 2 Monitors that are both have VGA Connectors.
You'll need two different adapters.
HDMI to VGA and DVI to VGA.

Or if your monitors have HDMI or DVI Ports on them.
Just get the corresponding cables to connect too the Video Card.




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Old July 8th, 2018, 02:48 AM
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They are straight up VGA only.
This is why I was having a hard time because Dell told me to get these overpriced items:
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/acce...s/apd/a9021567
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/acce...s/apd/a7871725
The HDMI is labeled as Mini, which is what started my whole process on trying to find the correct ports of this card and the matching adapters, for a cheaper price.
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Old July 8th, 2018, 03:31 PM
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Here are the different HDMI Connector types.

It is strange that the Video Card has the Mini C HDMI connector instead of the standard A HDMI connector.
Well, more likely the video card designers were told to keep the video card compact as possible, and to use the cheapest connectors as possible.


As for the Adapters, you should be able to find them a lot cheaper at BestBuy, Walmart, or even a local Computer Builder/Repair shop.




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Old July 8th, 2018, 03:43 PM
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As said all standard.
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